Sage 6, WHO'S EXCITED

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Interesting thread. Perhaps some "Sage History"?

Talkin' Story:

About 25 years ago, one of our friends, a very smart knife journalist in Taiwan, said that he knew of a maker that he thought could do our quality. We met with him at the Blade show and Eric and I had an opportunity to get a scope on parts he was making. He is now our Taichung maker.

We needed a design that would be a good design for him to try. Not too easy, but versatile. We try very hard to keep the design and possible family with the maker we are working with. I needed a design that would; serve a large percentage of people, was sized to be legal in most jurisdictions, be large enough to be a working piece, had the possibility of flourishing long term. It also had to different from the Delica, kind of like a "cousin". The Sage was that model. Using it to platform locks permitted versatility. The design forked into a branch after we made the Compression Lock variation. We tooled up to an FRN handle, using the Compression lock which would permit variation in color and blade material. The "Lock line" continues with the locks. 6 is next. Eric has a few more locks planned for Sages. Kinda an interesting story?

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sal wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:31 pm
The "Lock line" continues with the locks. 6 is next. Eric has a few more locks planned for Sages. Kinda an interesting story?

It's like a well-written tv series, where at the end of every show, the fans are left on the edge of their seats wondering what locks and steels will be featured in next week's episode.
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Exited ?! I’m in heaven ! That S90V sprint is mine !!! I plan to purchase at least two of them. Enough said.
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Definitely excited and will be picking up the S90 version. That said, I was hoping for a CQI'd pivot screw. Something a little larger or better looking like the new Smock pivot screw.
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That’s a fascinating story. But my dumb question is: was it named Sage for the plant, or for the wise old man?
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Hi Sildani,

Wise old man.

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sal wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:51 pm
Hi Sildani,

Wise old man.

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And maybe also a double entendre? I always guessed that was the case, as the Sage has a sibling named the Chaparral.
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Wartstein wrote:
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Mat_ski wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:41 pm
I am probably in the minority, but I am not too crazy about Sage series. The blade shape is just wrong for me. Try peeling a mango with sage and then try with UKPK, delica, native, or Leafjumper. There is something about sage’s blade that just does not feel right with me.
Could you elaborate further?

I am normally not really interested in such small folders, but the Sage is one I actually still am. To me it really looks like as if it does right what the Para 3 does wrong (for me!)

Now I am probably also in a minority in that I prefer a blade with a straighter edge and then a belly just towards the tip over a continuous curve in the edge (ideal for me is the Stretch with its long completely straight edge section starting right at the heel)
So regarding this aspect the Sage actually looks like NOT being 100% what I like - BUT: The LeafJumper and Native appear to have a rather similar blade profile? (While the Delica comes closer to what I prefer)

Or did you refer to a completely different aspect of their blade shapes?
While it is hard to put objective measure on something like mango cutting, I think it comes down to the width of the blade relative to the edge length and how it tapers to the tip. Photo of some leaf blades below for reference.

Sage's blade just seems fatter and it feels that way when I use it. Native 5 is very close to sage but it has no thumb ramp so distance from spine to edge is shorter.

But ultimately it is all probably in my head because when holding a Sage I just can't shake off the feeling that I am holding a spoon with an edge.
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Mat_ski wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:50 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:29 am
Mat_ski wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:41 pm
While it is hard to put objective measure on something like mango cutting, I think it comes down to the width of the blade relative to the edge length and how it tapers to the tip. Photo of some leaf blades below for reference.

Sage's blade just seems fatter and it feels that way when I use it. Native 5 is very close to sage but it has no thumb ramp so distance from spine to edge is shorter.

But ultimately it is all probably in my head because when holding a Sage I just can't shake off the feeling that I am holding a spoon with an edge.

Thanks for the explanation!

Though I am not sure I can 100% comprehend what you experience with the Sage, I definitely got an idea now.
Will just have to try myself!
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This one needs a nickname, obviously some combination of Sage and Smock. 😁

Smage ?
Sock ?
Sack ?
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cjk wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:22 pm
This one needs a nickname, obviously some combination of Sage and Smock. 😁

Smage ?
Sock ?
Sack ?
Those are good starting points.

SLS-- Smock Lock Sage?
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Enactive wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:50 pm
cjk wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:22 pm
This one needs a nickname, obviously some combination of Sage and Smock. 😁

Smage ?
Sock ?
Sack ?
Those are good starting points.

SLS-- Smock Lock Sage?

...with the BASIC lock

Button Actuated Smock Inspired Compression-lock

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How about "Sage 6?" ;) :grin-smiling-eyes
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Mushroom wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:24 am
How about "Sage 6?" ;) :grin-smiling-eyes
OK, "smage" it is. :winking-tongue
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Smage is great! It can also be easily abbreviated to Mage, riffing on Sage with another word play.
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I’m looking forward to the release and comments once the Sage is in the wild . I hope it is successful. MG2
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Outstanding. Thanks for the knowledge.
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Has any Sage 6 been released ? I have missed out on Sage 5 magnacut for now...

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KJKeyserSoze wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:25 am
Has any Sage 6 been released ? I have missed out on Sage 5 magnacut for now...

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No, Sage 6 only announced but hasn't made it to any retailers yet.

Those M4 Sage 5 are one that now I regret missing. At first those mint scales didn't really hit home with me, but now I rather like them, and I just simply like M4.
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