Can the Opening Hole be improved?
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Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Can the trademarked Spyderco Opening Hole be improved or have all known methods been tried and it is perfect ?
Someone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Someone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
No need to fix something that ain't broke.
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Who suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pmSomeone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Yes. Countersink at 45 degrees

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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
I think the opening hole could be 'supplemented' via the ATR 'cobra hood'. This provides a secondary / backup method of opening should your thumb not fully engage the thumb hole, and also provides a much more comfortable thumb rest when using the knife.
I think it would be cool to see these offered as an aftermarket/spyderco option for adding to some of Spydercos most popular models, thats secured with set screws pressing along the side of the blade as a friction fit.



Cobrahood + Wave option I think would also be popular as a bolt on addition.
I think it would be cool to see these offered as an aftermarket/spyderco option for adding to some of Spydercos most popular models, thats secured with set screws pressing along the side of the blade as a friction fit.



Cobrahood + Wave option I think would also be popular as a bolt on addition.
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Never thought about this as it works very well for me on all models, small, large, backlock, RIL, CBBL, linerlock, comp lock, etc, etc.


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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Just don't suggest getting rid of the spydie hole. You would break the internet, and all the spydie employees couldn't put it back together
Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
I take a Dremel to all of mine that aren't DLC, cleaning up any machine marks inside the hole and sharpening the edge so it's nice and crisp.
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
My favorite opening hole is this one:

Chamfering and widening the hole does improve flickability, but is it worth changing Spyderco's signature design?
Chamfering and widening the hole does improve flickability, but is it worth changing Spyderco's signature design?
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
I can’t see how the tictac opening hole works better than the perfect circle opening hole. Definitely not as functional. but for fidgety pocket jewelry knives ig it doesn’t matter.

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Right?? Always turns into an interesting answer. He talks to more people than I could ever imagine!zhyla wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:01 pmWho suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pmSomeone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
I've got to agree with Jim on the topic though...if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
I wouldn’t want a rough opening hole. As you open the knife the skin on your thumb is rotated against the edge of the hole. A rough perimeter would cut into that skin like a serrated edge. I want a smooth hole, sharp enough to grab the finger pad but not sharp enough to slice into it.
Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
If it ain't broke it hasn't been improved enough yet.TkoK83Spy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:26 amRight?? Always turns into an interesting answer. He talks to more people than I could ever imagine!zhyla wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:01 pmSpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pmSomeone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Who suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.
I've got to agree with Jim on the topic though...if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
I'll say it again, don't fix what isn't broken.
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Maybe… on a few knives. From a personal aesthetic point of view, I could live with a slightly smaller hole and less ‘hump’ on a few models.
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
Hear, hear.Bill1170 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:49 amI wouldn’t want a rough opening hole. As you open the knife the skin on your thumb is rotated against the edge of the hole. A rough perimeter would cut into that skin like a serrated edge. I want a smooth hole, sharp enough to grab the finger pad but not sharp enough to slice into it.
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Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
More area to catch your finger. You can't fail a reverse flick with that design.Tristan_david2001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:42 amI can’t see how the tictac opening hole works better than the perfect circle opening hole. Definitely not as functional. but for fidgety pocket jewelry knives ig it doesn’t matter.
Visualizing the Tradeoff of Higher Hardness
S90V: Nirvana Military 2 CF Native 5 Fluted CF Manix XL CF Yojumbo CF Shaman CF Sage 6 CF CPM-154/S90V: Manix 2 CF Magnacut: Native 5 Fluted Ti 3V: Tuff 4V: Manix 2 Marble CF Damasteel: Native 5 40th Anniversary REX 121: Sage 5 CF 20CV: Subvert CF ZDP-189: Dragonfly 2 Nishijin N690Co: PITS XHP: Chaparral Birdseye Maple
S90V: Nirvana Military 2 CF Native 5 Fluted CF Manix XL CF Yojumbo CF Shaman CF Sage 6 CF CPM-154/S90V: Manix 2 CF Magnacut: Native 5 Fluted Ti 3V: Tuff 4V: Manix 2 Marble CF Damasteel: Native 5 40th Anniversary REX 121: Sage 5 CF 20CV: Subvert CF ZDP-189: Dragonfly 2 Nishijin N690Co: PITS XHP: Chaparral Birdseye Maple
Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?
It ain't all about flicking...Synov wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:32 amMore area to catch your finger. You can't fail a reverse flick with that design.Tristan_david2001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:42 amI can’t see how the tictac opening hole works better than the perfect circle opening hole. Definitely not as functional. but for fidgety pocket jewelry knives ig it doesn’t matter.
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