Compression Lock : Usable with no cutout in scale ? Think GB 2

[Wowbagger]

Has anyone made their own handle scales and omitted the cutout for pinching the compression lock ?
I swear it seems to me that I could just get my index finger tip in there like I do my several Gayle Bradley 1 & 2s . Apples to oranges I realize ; being the GB is a liner lock but still . . . I find the liner lock on the GBs easier to release with my index finger and there is basically no cutout .

Reason is I prefer the clean surface of the handle spine like a back lock or an axis or ball lock ; in use I can do without that dip in the spine of the handle .

It might depend on how thick one's finger tip is . I have < thick fingers .

PS : I am specifically looking at the Para 3 in this instance.

[Evil D]

I think it'll depend on how far the lock bar travels. I'm thinking about making some custom scales for a Bodacious and this is something I'm going to try out.

[8th_Note]

Has anyone made their own handle scales and omitted the cutout for pinching the compression lock ?
I swear it seems to me that I could just get my index finger tip in there like I do my several Gayle Bradley 1 & 2s . Apples to oranges I realize ; being the GB is a liner lock but still . . . I find the liner lock on the GBs easier to release with my index finger and there is basically no cutout .

Reason is I prefer the clean surface of the handle spine like a back lock or an axis or ball lock ; in use I can do without that dip in the spine of the handle .

It might depend on how thick one's finger tip is . I have < thick fingers .

PS : I am specifically looking at the Para 3 in this instance.

Try a Sage 6 or a Vosteed Porcupine

[riclaw]

Edgerati omitted the cutout, at least at one point in its design... check the second picture in Post #1:
viewtopic.php?p=1721342&hilit=edgerati#p1721342

[sal]

Hi Riclaw,

The Edgerati has a cut out. 22mm long, mm deep, curved.

sal

[mikey177]

If the scale is thick enough, you could try a cutout on the inside of the scale like on the Spyderco Hanan.

[Wartstein]

Has anyone made their own handle scales and omitted the cutout for pinching the compression lock ?
I swear it seems to me that I could just get my index finger tip in there like I do my several Gayle Bradley 1 & 2s . Apples to oranges I realize ; being the GB is a liner lock but still . . . I find the liner lock on the GBs easier to release with my index finger and there is basically no cutout .

Reason is I prefer the clean surface of the handle spine like a back lock or an axis or ball lock ; in use I can do without that dip in the spine of the handle .

It might depend on how thick one's finger tip is . I have < thick fingers .

PS : I am specifically looking at the Para 3 in this instance.

I don´t know... while I am not the biggest fan of the cutout ergo-wise, I´d probably rather go with something like the "compression made easy" - device or like to see something like folding the lock tab over twice (or the button of course) in order to create an mostly uninterrupted handle surface.

No cutout and no button but just scales could make the lock pretty cumbersome to use with gloves or cold, wet hands.. ?

[Wartstein]

If the scale is thick enough, you could try a cutout on the inside of the scale like on the Spyderco Hanan.
hanan comp lock cutout.jpg

Pretty cool!
Did not know this approach existed!

[Evil D]

If the scale is thick enough, you could try a cutout on the inside of the scale like on the Spyderco Hanan.
hanan comp lock cutout.jpg

Wow I completely overlooked that those are compression locks, and that is exactly what I had in mind for my Bodacious scale mod. I'm sure it might hinder unlocking somewhat but I'm still curious.

[Mushroom]

That is actually how the Edgerati prototype was first shown to the public -



I thought that's how it was going to be produced but that obviously changed before final production.

[Wartstein]

...
Wow I completely overlooked that those are compression locks, and that is exactly what I had in mind for my Bodacious scale mod. I'm sure it might hinder unlocking somewhat but I'm still curious.

Not only did I overlook it, but never even thought of that kind of implementation of a comp.lock!
Now that I see it I like it a LOT, but of course would have to try how it actually would work out for me.

[riclaw]

Hi Riclaw,

The Edgerati has a cut out. 22mm long, mm deep, curved.

sal

Hi Sal,

Thank you for clarifying. Was there ever a point in development when the Edgerati didn't have a cutout? Are there any other fun stories you can share involving the creation of the Edgerati and it's siblings?

[sal]

Well, Nick's correct. the prototype piece shown at the Show was shown as the photo. The model had years of breathing on the model, and some challenges getting the thing into production. We added the cutout when we began refinement of the design. The cutout is the simplest and maybe the safest way to release the lock.

Hey Riclaw,

There are almost always glitches in the development of a new model. Horror stories requiring Tylenol. Then add that Eric and I are a bit OC in getting it "right". At least right enough, knowing that real world feedback, mostly from you, will being mods and variations n the future. But we do try hard to get the check list checked.

Just the fact that the Shaman, (long time in development), The Bodacious and the Edgerati are design siblings. Variations that Peter, Roque and I created. Then Eric and the Golden knifemakers had to get them made and to you. Now, add in all of the other deigns, collaborations, Mule Teams, etc., each with their own challenges, and it can be a complicated company.

sal

[cabfrank]

The results show the effort and we are pleased ELU's because of it.

[Wowbagger]

No cutout and no button but just scales could make the lock pretty cumbersome to use with gloves or cold, wet hands.. ?

Good one !
Still . . . people sing the praises of the GB 1 as a hard work knife.
How is the button with gloves ? I'm thinking not so good . I should try it . I guess I was thinking insulated / warm gloves wouldn't work . Probably just work gloves would .

[Wowbagger]

Edgerati omitted the cutout, at least at one point in its design... check the second picture in Post #1:
viewtopic.php?p=1721342&hilit=edgerati#p1721342

Oh yeah ; look at that !


I have a responce to this quote from that old thread :

Handled it, felt really weird due to the ultralight handle. Made the knife blade heavy.

When they start grinding THIN blades ; think Japanese kitchen knife thin like yeh :

then maybe the blades won't unbalace the light handles.
It chaps me no end that I have to grind A LOT of my knives to a half or a third as thick as they come to make them into matter separators that actually separate matter.

Gayle Bradley 2 ground to 1.8 mm at the spine .
Cold Steel Ti Lite 4 inch to about that .
Cold Steel SRK
Cold Steel Pendleton Hunter 3V
Spyderco H2 Salt to even less .

Come on Kids . We don't actually NEED 4mm thick short blades . I've only ever broken one thin knife (short little crack perpendicular to the edge ; knife still usable) and it was in a knife about eight inches long and 2mm or less at the spine . It was a MAC kitchen knife and I was BATTONING it through a rock hard squash gourd . H*ll I have bent Opinel #12s about ninety degrees while it was clamped in a vise with a groove cut half way through the thickness of the blade using an angle grinder . Had to flex it WAAAAYYYYYY over three times before it broke off using monster channel lock pliers .

(for a blade length mod)
Rant ends .