Destroyed Pants

[Sharp Guy]

I've had plenty of frayed pockets. It's one reason knives with wire clips and smooth scales see more pocket time. But I still like the LW models with bi-directional texturing and Golden models with peel ply G10. So, as Sal mentioned, I bend the clips out a tiny bit and it helps a lot. I replaced all my blue jeans a few years ago and the replacements all look great. Problem solved

[silver & black]

I don't have that problem, as I'm a shop guy that wears jeans every day. On the occasions that I do wear nice slacks/pants, I just carry a knife without a clip.

[Wartstein]

In my experience there are mostly two kinds of "pocket destroying", one more on the rim of the pocket from frequently getting the knife in and out of the pocket, the second (more on thin garment, wide pockets where the knife has a lot of room to "move") where the end of the knife that sits deeper in the pocket causes a hole there over time.

I practically never have to wear a suit, it is always bluejeans or even more casual climbing pants in my day to day more "urban" part of life.

Both types of pants still definitely do get destroyed from carrying or as said rather frequently drawing my folders.
I found that Spydercos FRN with that smooth logo landing spot for the clip is less of a pocket destroyer than their regularly textured G10.

And pretty much on each pant I own I have to sew a new patch of new garment over slowly developing wear and holes - see first pic.

Second pic shows the second type of wear: A hole in already the second, sewn on layer of garment on a bouldering pant.



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[WilliamMunny]

In my experience there are mostly two kinds of "pocket destroying", one more on the rim of the pocket from frequently getting the knife in and out of the pocket, the second (more on thin garment, wide pockets where the knife has a lot of room to "move") where the end of the knife that sits deeper in the pocket causes a hole there over time.

I practically never have to wear a suit, it is always bluejeans or even more casual climbing pants in my day to day more "urban" part of life.

Both types of pants still definitely do get destroyed from carrying or as said rather frequently drawing my folders.
I found that Spydercos FRN with that smooth logo landing spot for the clip is less of a pocket destroyer than their regularly textured G10.

And pretty much on each pant I own I have to sew a new patch of new garment over slowly developing wear and holes - see first pic.

Second pic shows the second type of wear: A hole in already the second, sewn on layer of garment on a bouldering pant.



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The wear seems to happen at the back of my pocket. The suit leg seam is right in line with the back of the pocket. I feel like the knife just gets pinned to the back of the pocket and movement of sitting, walking, etc causes tension and rubbing.

For work I am generally active in a suit and will wear them 16+ hours a day. This is generally a few weeks or months a year depending on demand. But it’s enough to destroy a pocket of a $300-$500 suit in about a 2 years time need rotating suits all the time.

I never have an issue with jeans or mid weight dress pants, only suits as they have thin material.

I think the Kapara will help a ton minimizing any hot spots in the pocket.

[Jeb]

I don't get any of my pants to last that long lol, jeans, carhartt's or 1620's that are much more heavy duty than any suit pants I have. I end getting burns cuts and/or bullet holes from something in all my clothes and have to replace them lol.

[JoviAl]

In my experience there are mostly two kinds of "pocket destroying", one more on the rim of the pocket from frequently getting the knife in and out of the pocket, the second (more on thin garment, wide pockets where the knife has a lot of room to "move") where the end of the knife that sits deeper in the pocket causes a hole there over time.

I practically never have to wear a suit, it is always bluejeans or even more casual climbing pants in my day to day more "urban" part of life.

Both types of pants still definitely do get destroyed from carrying or as said rather frequently drawing my folders.
I found that Spydercos FRN with that smooth logo landing spot for the clip is less of a pocket destroyer than their regularly textured G10.

And pretty much on each pant I own I have to sew a new patch of new garment over slowly developing wear and holes - see first pic.

Second pic shows the second type of wear: A hole in already the second, sewn on layer of garment on a bouldering pant.



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The wear seems to happen at the back of my pocket. The suit leg seam is right in line with the back of the pocket. I feel like the knife just gets pinned to the back of the pocket and movement of sitting, walking, etc causes tension and rubbing.

For work I am generally active in a suit and will wear them 16+ hours a day. This is generally a few weeks or months a year depending on demand. But it’s enough to destroy a pocket of a $300-$500 suit in about a 2 years time need rotating suits all the time.

I never have an issue with jeans or mid weight dress pants, only suits as they have thin material.

I think the Kapara will help a ton minimizing any hot spots in the pocket.

I’ve been eyeing those beautiful burlap micarta Kaparas for a while and now you’ve basically given me a reason to buy one I only suit up when I’m doing consultancy work these days, but apart from an antique folder that is super thin I have nothing that sits discretely in a suit pocket.

[WilliamMunny]

In my experience there are mostly two kinds of "pocket destroying", one more on the rim of the pocket from frequently getting the knife in and out of the pocket, the second (more on thin garment, wide pockets where the knife has a lot of room to "move") where the end of the knife that sits deeper in the pocket causes a hole there over time.

I practically never have to wear a suit, it is always bluejeans or even more casual climbing pants in my day to day more "urban" part of life.

Both types of pants still definitely do get destroyed from carrying or as said rather frequently drawing my folders.
I found that Spydercos FRN with that smooth logo landing spot for the clip is less of a pocket destroyer than their regularly textured G10.

And pretty much on each pant I own I have to sew a new patch of new garment over slowly developing wear and holes - see first pic.

Second pic shows the second type of wear: A hole in already the second, sewn on layer of garment on a bouldering pant.



html link kopieren

The wear seems to happen at the back of my pocket. The suit leg seam is right in line with the back of the pocket. I feel like the knife just gets pinned to the back of the pocket and movement of sitting, walking, etc causes tension and rubbing.

For work I am generally active in a suit and will wear them 16+ hours a day. This is generally a few weeks or months a year depending on demand. But it’s enough to destroy a pocket of a $300-$500 suit in about a 2 years time need rotating suits all the time.

I never have an issue with jeans or mid weight dress pants, only suits as they have thin material.

I think the Kapara will help a ton minimizing any hot spots in the pocket.

I’ve been eyeing those beautiful burlap micarta Kaparas for a while and now you’ve basically given me a reason to buy one I only suit up when I’m doing consultancy work these days, but apart from an antique folder that is super thin I have nothing that sits discretely in a suit pocket.

The clip lets it sit very deep in the pocket, very light, tons of cutting edge annd extremely well built, honestly one of my nicest knives.

[8th_Note]

In my experience there are mostly two kinds of "pocket destroying", one more on the rim of the pocket from frequently getting the knife in and out of the pocket, the second (more on thin garment, wide pockets where the knife has a lot of room to "move") where the end of the knife that sits deeper in the pocket causes a hole there over time.

I practically never have to wear a suit, it is always bluejeans or even more casual climbing pants in my day to day more "urban" part of life.

Both types of pants still definitely do get destroyed from carrying or as said rather frequently drawing my folders.
I found that Spydercos FRN with that smooth logo landing spot for the clip is less of a pocket destroyer than their regularly textured G10.

And pretty much on each pant I own I have to sew a new patch of new garment over slowly developing wear and holes - see first pic.

Second pic shows the second type of wear: A hole in already the second, sewn on layer of garment on a bouldering pant.



html link kopieren

The wear seems to happen at the back of my pocket. The suit leg seam is right in line with the back of the pocket. I feel like the knife just gets pinned to the back of the pocket and movement of sitting, walking, etc causes tension and rubbing.

For work I am generally active in a suit and will wear them 16+ hours a day. This is generally a few weeks or months a year depending on demand. But it’s enough to destroy a pocket of a $300-$500 suit in about a 2 years time need rotating suits all the time.

I never have an issue with jeans or mid weight dress pants, only suits as they have thin material.

I think the Kapara will help a ton minimizing any hot spots in the pocket.

maybe you could look into getting your suit pants altered to have some padding or thicker material lining the pocket ?

[Jeb]

8th note,

That is a thought man... they could have some extra more wear resistant material added to their pockets that they edc the knife in.

I got several pair of UF PRO pants, and that is exactly what they did to the corners of those pants. These pants are expensive, but honestly the best more comfortable pants I own. I spent more on these than my dress pants.

They got stretch panels sewn in places for that extra wear resistant stuff sewn in other places, but by the time they pieced these pants together, they are awesome.


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Now these would not pass off as pants for your suits in any way lol. But I bet you could get something extra added to your pants as UF Pro has done.

That or get you a Sheath to go on over your belt and carry your knife like that. When I put a suit on, I also pack on my .45 side arm. My side arm itself tends to wear my pants all weird. But where I wear a suit, I also want to have my .45 sidearm lol...

[WilliamMunny]

8th note,

That is a thought man... they could have some extra more wear resistant material added to their pockets that they edc the knife in.

I got several pair of UF PRO pants, and that is exactly what they did to the corners of those pants. These pants are expensive, but honestly the best more comfortable pants I own. I spent more on these than my dress pants.

They got stretch panels sewn in places for that extra wear resistant stuff sewn in other places, but by the time they pieced these pants together, they are awesome.


https://ufpro.com/us?_kx=uCivsSRAnh35wO ... 0Activated

Now these would not pass off as pants for your suits in any way lol. But I bet you could get something extra added to your pants as UF Pro has done.

That or get you a Sheath to go on over your belt and carry your knife like that. When I put a suit on, I also pack on my .45 side arm. My side arm itself tends to wear my pants all weird. But where I wear a suit, I also want to have my .45 sidearm lol...

I reinforced my suit coats for that reason, I have ripped out the back of a lot of jackets.

[RustyIron]

Are all you guys all dentists and hedge fund managers? Jeans that cost hundreds of dollars? Since I never get invited to Donald and Melania's for dinner, I don't need clothes like that.

I buy affordable pants. Lee can be had at a reasonable price. So can Levis if you're patient and wait for a sale. A couple months ago I found my Amazon Essential jeans were being discontinued, and I could get them for $13 a pair. I bought five pair.

Here's my routine: I wear the new pants for when I need to look good. After a few months, the pants no longer look tip-top, so I start wearing them for casual work around the house. After a couple months of that, then I start wearing them for real work, like chopping down bushes, disassembling big engines, or crawling around in the dirt. After a couple months of this, the pants are ready for the trash.

That's the life cycle. The pants are worn out before the knife can wear a hold in the pockets. If I goof up and accidentally burn a hole or stain the new pants, I don't care because they're inexpensive. And I've always got new ones for when I need to dress like a grown-up.

[WilliamMunny]

Are all you guys all dentists and hedge fund managers? Jeans that cost hundreds of dollars? Since I never get invited to Donald and Melania's for dinner, I don't need clothes like that.

I buy affordable pants. Lee can be had at a reasonable price. So can Levis if you're patient and wait for a sale. A couple months ago I found my Amazon Essential jeans were being discontinued, and I could get them for $13 a pair. I bought five pair.

Here's my routine: I wear the new pants for when I need to look good. After a few months, the pants no longer look tip-top, so I start wearing them for casual work around the house. After a couple months of that, then I start wearing them for real work, like chopping down bushes, disassembling big engines, or crawling around in the dirt. After a couple months of this, the pants are ready for the trash.

That's the life cycle. The pants are worn out before the knife can wear a hold in the pockets. If I goof up and accidentally burn a hole or stain the new pants, I don't care because they're inexpensive. And I've always got new ones for when I need to dress like a grown-up.

Down or casual cloths have never been an issue. Even then if I kill a pair of jeans in a year or two, I got my $30 out of them. My main issue was wearing expensive suits for work and destroying them in a year or two. I was just looking for a knife that was more forgiving on clothing.

[Mk-211]

Wrangler RIGGS

[Jeb]

Here is a shot of a pair of my UF PRO- P40 - gen 3 pants I have in brown/ Grey color. Like I mentioned before fellows, these aren't cheap but they make up for it in functionality.

I have no freaking idea of how many pockets these pants have either, but it's not hard or out of place for me to have 4 or more Spyderco knives all on my right-side and still have pockets left for other things like tape measure.

[TkoK83Spy]

Gernot, I find it interesting how you carry your knife in your pocket. More towards your groin of the pocket, rather than the seam. Seems like the way shown in your pocket could lead to an unpleasant surprise of a knife opening in pocket. Though I know it's rare, but seems much more likely to happen over carrying it with the spine at the seam.

[silver & black]

I carry a 25' tape measure cliped to my pocket every day. It does way more damage than my knife.

[vivi]

I still don't understand how you guys are chewing up pants in a year or two.

I'm wearing a decade old pair of truspec 24/7's right now. This is how the front right pocket looks:





I also rotate between spyderco folders and cold steel, the latter of which is known for abrasive clip landings and ridiculously tight clips.

Jeb, those pants you have look awesome. My truspecs have a bunch of pockets too....

10-12" deep front pockets, standard back pockets, narrow flashlight / knife pockets between the front and rear pockets, cargo pockets with an internal divider, and a mini cargo pocket on top of the cargo pocket that's designed to hold spare mags (much comfier than carrying them IWB and just as stealthy).

I've been working my way through all the Tremors movies and I had to laugh when Burt Gummer got caught on an old mattress in I believe the third movie. He tells another character something like "grab my leatherman...my multitool.....right side of my vest, third row, second from the right." Reminds me of myself.

[Wartstein]

Gernot, I find it interesting how you carry your knife in your pocket. More towards your groin of the pocket, rather than the seam. Seems like the way shown in your pocket could lead to an unpleasant surprise of a knife opening in pocket. Though I know it's rare, but seems much more likely to happen over carrying it with the spine at the seam.

Hey Rick,

you are completely right, this is a weird habit I developed in the times when I had no idea how (most) others carry (and actually use, grip, open...) their folders.
Does not make much sense, and it sure is good advice to rather carry with the spine resting at the seam, at least or especially when we´re talking tip up (which is what I always choose)!

I actually had to adapt to carrying more towards the seam when I still had my BM Minigrip, which was rather prone to opening in pocket, but also with my few comp.lock and linerlock Spydies (there it was rather a precaution).

Right now I exclusively have backlocks and one, lonely CBBL - and I feel safe enough with those.
But I agree: It would still be safer to carry towards the seam, but I am just so used to the way I carry my Spydies, and none of my current ones ever showed any sign of not staying closed.

[Midnightrider]

I wear suits a lot of time for work but my Spyderco knives tend to destroy my pocket. I carry tip up front right pocket. I also tend to carry 3” (Para 3, Native 5, Sage 5, etc.) knife while in a suit. I never have the issues in kakis or jeans.

Does anyone have the same issue? Has anyone found a way to save your pants?

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I had the same problem, tore up some good pants carrying a P4 in K390 (G10 scales). A seamstress was able to kinda save one pair with an iron-on patch creatively done from the inside somehow but you can still tell something's wrong.

I don't have an answer for this.

For work I only wear a suit a handfull of times per year, but never have a knife in the pocket. Bulky items don't look good in a suit anyway, so I carry a small pouch with a knife, phone, keys you name it.

G10 goes tru everything.

The Military and P4 carry just fine, especially the P4 is very flat. Nobody in the office ever said anything.

G10 goes through everything, how true!

I'm also looking at a pocket organizer like Viperade offers or the Maxpedition platy. Keeps eveything in place. Still not something I put in my suit pockets though.

I have some sleeves for the stockman folders I have but for the big knives I want to be able to draw them in a hurry if I need to. I don't know of anything that could help.

[Wartstein]

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G10 goes tru everything....

Yes, that´s what I found too and FRN with the smooth landing spot is a lot friendlier to pockets in my experience.

But I can only talk about the "usual", more or less grippy G10. Never tried really smooth G10 scales resp. never attempted to smooth some out either.
Anyway not much of a thing for me personally ,since I´ll always take FRN over G10 for several reasons when I have the option.