Temperance 2... in 15v?

[Actinolite]

Not long ago, I bought a Temperance PE sprint run with gray FRN and CruWear blade. I like it a lot. The CruWear is great. It doesn't hold an edge anywhere near as long as 15V would, but it's pretty easy to sharpen and is very tough. In fact, the SE version of it is in the mail.

[vivi]

I didn't even think of super blue, but the more I think about it the more I like that idea.

[sal]

Super Blue rusts very easily. I don't think I want to do that. You have to wash it and dry it each time you use it.

sal

[vivi]

true. I only have it in high end gyutos but it holds an edge nicely and sharpens great. I guess clad would be the only sensible option for a temp 2 sprint.

So, something stainless but more exciting to the public than VG10, made in japan. Hmm.

I enjoyed ZDP189 back in the day but I don't see it having the right degree of toughness for this role.

I've never used it but I hear supergold 2 trades some edge retention for toughness vs ZDP.

[kerrcobra]

Well, if superblue is out, then I vote for HAP40.

[Enactive]

Hap 40 and V-Toku 2 are fantastic stainless clad tool steels that should be available in Seki City.

I like my CruWear Temp, especially the blade and sheath, but the handle ergos are a bit off for me. I may just need to use it more to get used to it.

[captnvegtble]

Clade HAP40 is a favorite of mine. I think it would make an excellent steel for another run of the Temperance 2.

[Matt Deaner]

Temp 2 in HAP 40 would be awesome, but I would prefer it be run harder than the 2015 sprints.

[Matt Deaner]

Cruwear would be fantastic too.

[kerrcobra]

Temp 2 in HAP 40 would be awesome, but I would prefer it be run harder than the 2015 sprints.

I would definitely like that too. I’d also prefer it unclad, but I’ll take what I can get.

[vivi]

hap40 sounds good to me

[sal]

I thought about MRS-30 by Daido? They make MBS-26

sal

[N. Brian Huegel]

Wasn't MRS-30 the steel Al Mar used in 1979 in his inaugural line and that he called RS-30? Isn't (wasn't) MRS-30 made exclusively for Masahiro by Daido like MBS-26? I just sharpened a vintage RS-30 Al Mar for a customer last week ... great steel! To the best of my knowledge, Al Mar was the second company to use a pseudo-proprietary steel. The first being Gerber/G.Sakai using Gingami 1 for their Silver Knight series and later used in the first ClipIts. Of course, early AMK and Japanese Gerbers and Spydercos were all made by G.Sakai.

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[sal]

Hi Brian,

Daido makes MBS-26 exclusively for Masahiro. I had a customer in New York, a Rabbi, that was sending our Santoku's to Tel Aviv to be reground into the traditional Challif for Kosher chickens.. He wanted us to make a run of the Callif model for him. Masahiro didn't want to make it and Daido wouldn't sell us the steel. MRS-30 was very close to the MBS, so we purchased it instead and used a different maker. The steel was very good, but there was a tad more carbon which didn't work for the Rabbi at the very very thin edge.

Yes, Al Mar called it RS-30 probably because the "MRS" was not masculine.

sal

[carpdiem]

How would you expect MRS-30 to compare against the original VG-10? I'm not familiar with that steel's properties.

[N. Brian Huegel]

Here is a photo from Spyderco Source:
https://spydercosource.com/2010/10/spyd ... knife-k10/

Obviously, some of the information needs to be corrected, but at least we can see what it looked like. I remember selling them, but not to Kosher rabbis.

I did make six challifs for beef slaughtering some 40 years ago that were similarly styled but with a 14" 440C blades, brass bolsters and ivory micarta handles. They were patterned from a worn 1940-50s challif made by W.R.Case & Sons provided by the rabbi who ordered them. I have also reground and reprofiled worn out beef slaughtering challif into smaller veal, lamb, and chicken slaughtering knives.

As an aside, the most famous maker of the challif was J & D Miller of the Bronx, NY:

https://sova.si.edu/record/nmah.ac.0514

nb