What is your all time favorite steel?

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Re: What is your all time favorite steel?

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Synov wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:23 am
This sort of explains why 3V is my favorite. Need an unbreakable sword? Make it out of a thick piece of 3V. Need a straight razor with the edge retention of a high speed steel? Make it out of a thin piece of 3V.

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Hello!

Was looking at your chart, it is very interesting. Where did the data for cruwear and 3v come from regarding blade thicknesses? Not to start a hoohaa over the data, but 3v and cruwear equal tcc by just making the blade thinner. Yes it makes sense, but then why don't bladesmiths just do that?

Steels of interest to me based on this and other charts would be 3v, 4v, cpm-154, maganamax and 15v.
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Re: What is your all time favorite steel?

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Naperville wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:05 pm
Synov wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:23 am
This sort of explains why 3V is my favorite. Need an unbreakable sword? Make it out of a thick piece of 3V. Need a straight razor with the edge retention of a high speed steel? Make it out of a thin piece of 3V.

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Hello!

Was looking at your chart, it is very interesting. Where did the data for cruwear and 3v come from regarding blade thicknesses? Not to start a hoohaa over the data, but 3v and cruwear equal tcc by just making the blade thinner. Yes it makes sense, but then why don't bladesmiths just do that?

Steels of interest to me based on this and other charts would be 3v, 4v, cpm-154, maganamax and 15v.
See this post for an explanation of the thickness curves: viewtopic.php?p=1845119#p1845119

Bladesmiths do use all kinds of different edge geometries, so your question kind of answers itself. I think it's helpful to keep in mind that the points on the chart (not dotted line curves) are all comparing the same edge geometry, just in different steels and hardnesses. It doesn't really matter what that geometry is since it still shows the relative differences between the steels. The dotted line curves show that changing that edge geometry can give you better results than just adding more carbides to the steel.

I do agree that there is a dearth of thin edges in high toughness steels. It seems like bladesmiths think that a high toughness steel also needs to be thick to double down on the toughness, when really the opposite is true.
Visualizing the Tradeoff of Higher Hardness
S90V: Nirvana Military 2 CF Native 5 Fluted CF Manix XL CF Yojumbo CF Shaman CF Sage 6 CF CPM-154/S90V: Manix 2 CF 15V: PM2 Marble CF 4V: Manix 2 Marble CF 3V: Tuff MagnaCut: Native 5 Fluted Ti REX 121: Sage 5 CF 20CV: Subvert CF ZDP-189: Dragonfly 2 Nishijin S30V: Sage 4 Damasteel: Native 5 40th Anniversary VG-10: Delica 25th Anniversary N690Co: PITS XHP: Chaparral Birdseye Maple
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Re: What is your all time favorite steel?

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H1/H2, no contest.

Close behind are LC200N and Magnacut.

After that, M390.
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Re: What is your all time favorite steel?

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For general use I actually prefer a non -steel talonite/stellite

For a blade steel actually made out of steel zdp-189. M390 and magnacut all work great for me
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With the caveat that I haven't tried too many steels, I'd say SPY27. I've had the most luck with it for sharpening and general use. After that, 20CV and 154CM for similar reasons.
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Re: What is your all time favorite steel?

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There are so many excellent steels nowadays, this is a hard question to answer.

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I have different favourites for different applications, but as an EDC all-rounder I always feel content with S90V in my pocket.

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Favourite Spydies: Military S90V, PM2 Cruwear, Siren LC200N, UKPK S110V, Endela Wharncliffe K390
Others: Victorinox Pioneer, CRK: L Sebenza, L Inkosi, Umnumzaan
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BOL,

Quite the collection you got there, really nice stuff...
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Re: What is your all time favorite steel?

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My absolute favourite in a vacuum is Vanax, but in the real world it's CruWear or MagnaCut. i use knives very unkindly and these two are very capable of tolerating it and then easily stropping back.
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