Potential Tariffs & Golden, CO.

[Skywalker]

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I just ordered a Taichung model and a Seki model at great prices. They will be the last production models that I will be buying until the economic chaos has passed and I can begin to make informed judgements about how to spend my disposable income. I will keep funds available to purchase 15V Sprints, and any dealer exclusives that I find compelling. I am operating under the reasonable assumption that prices for *everything* are likely to go up, and my disposable income will be diminished.

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Very similar here, though instead of Spydercos I ordered several Japanese kitchen knives I've been considering for a while before prices at US dealers start rising too much (viewtopic.php?p=1829553#p1829553)

Might still be in the market for a little 15V, but otherwise even if Spyderco's prices stay the same I'll be buying less. Things are going to be more expensive and my job is less secure.

[sal]

I do not believe that the current status of tariffs will remain as they are today. This a fluid situation for which negotiations are ongoing.

Over the past 49 years that we have been in business, Costs Globally have constantly changed due to a variety of reasons. We've had to adjust for these changes many times. Valuations in a country's currency have often been the impetus, but wars, Politics, new developments, lawsuits, inventions, bankruptcies, etc. are always a disruption. New Knife companies, especially the many coming from China, or other country's products made in China certainly affect our Industry.

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[sal]

Hey Ankerson,

I would go so as to say that for someone to absolutely refuse to even look at or consider an opposing point of view is a type of mental illness. Which, unfortunately, is more common globally than one might think.

sal

[Ankerson]

Hey Ankerson,

I would go so as to say that for someone to absolutely refuse to even look at or consider an opposing point of view is a type of mental illness. Which, unfortunately, is more common globally than one might think.

sal

Hey Sal,

Yeah well, I totally agree with that.

Goes to human nature and the sheep mentality and the need to be told what they want to hear.

Which is why and how humans are so easily manipulated.

Jim

[Naperville]

No political, just trying to explain something.

I'm not exactly where I fit politically on any line. I am an amalgam of ideas, feelings and life experiences that vary from the center, hard left and hard right depending on the subject. My 65 years tell me that most people should remain in the center unless they have life experience in something, they might take a side based on thought, but that is all that it is, a thought.

I have worked for a good number of years. I even had my own businesses, though they did not involve international business or what we think manufacturing, buying and selling as Spyderco does. Spyderco is a very complex business operation. The upper management at Spyderco are worldly, have been there and done that.

I agree that we should be able to discuss things. Maybe someone will make a statement that gets Sal, Eric, Gail, or someone at Spderco thinking differently about an issue.

I'd like to say: I'd be D.E.A.D. if I did not get a new aortic valve, 3-way bypass and try to change my diet in 2017, so I am in support of people obtaining medical assistance for life altering illnesses. Many would let me die. Until it is you, you do not know where you fall and that is true with almost all issues, and that is where you should seek to be, the center unless you had the luck or bad luck to develop wisdom in sone niche.

[Capt'n Boatsalot]

I want to commend everyone on this thread for keeping the discussion as apolitical as it's been. I can guarantee that in other corners of the Internet, this conversation would have dropped off into name calling, and talking past each other long, long ago. So kudos to all who have stuck with it, and tried (and done very well in my opinion) to stick within the guidelines set forth by Sal and Kristi.

I really do appreciate the different perspectives, and really value this particular communities' unique ability to discuss controversial issues from different places. I really think folks here are trying to learn and understand, and to explain where they are coming from. I certainly am.

I am hoping that the tariff situation isn't long term. However, if Spyderco prices go up significantly, then my purchasing will have to go down. I assume that if Spydercos are going up greatly in price, then so are all the necessities I buy all the time for my family (and I doubt my paycheck will be going up by a similar amount). If that assumption is true, then my discretionary spending on Spydies will have to go down. I'm sure I'll find some funds for really unique models, but I have no doubt that will be far less than what I've been able to buy recently. Just the reality of my situation.

[Naperville]

Not political, an update on where the tariffs are. These are just the facts and Sal and Spyderco need this info.

Due to China’s decision to stop all shipments of rare earth minerals & levy retaliatory tariffs, the White House has officially raised tariffs on Chinese goods to 245%. This announcement comes just prior to the opening of Chinese markets.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/ ... -products/

[WilliamMunny]

Sal,

Best of luck in these uncertain times. As you have said these times come and go as Thai one will, it’s just too bad they can increase stress and anxiety. I will keep buying Spyderco’s at my normal 2-3 knives a year.

[Snacktime]

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[Naperville]

110%, I support Spyderco and no price increase will change my purchasing decisions. I'm not rich, I'm down to around 5 knives a year and a price increase is not going to stop me from buying well made knives.

Let's not resort to name calling forum members or any political figures anywhere on the forum.

Just remain silent or present your counter argument and let it go. Don't get the thread locked. It is informational and useful.

[restless ghost]

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[SpyderEdgeForever]

I don't care if Chinese knives become more expensive from tariffs. It's my view that US Consumers should start decoupling from the Chinese economy ASAP.

I hope that you are aware that not all source materials can be sourced in North America.

It always has been world trading materials etc, between Countries and then with expansion between Continents so it was truly World Wide.

Then there is the manufacturing and that overhead to deal with so the Corps started outsourcing because they had to for various reasons.

In short isolationism doesn't work.

This is true. Even "Made in USA" doesn't necessarily mean that all of the materials that go into it originate from the US.

Jim

True. I will give an example without dropping the company name. I asked one well known American knife company about the source of their materials. They replied that the blades are made of USA made steel made from the very ore mined in America USA but the glass fiber reinforced nylon handles are made in a foreign location that the person seemed reluctant or unable to specify.
This was not Spyderco. It was another company.

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[Coastal]

It might not be possible, or even considered a good idea by Spyderco, but I would like to be warned via the forum a few days in advance of a price increase. Such a warning could cause me to pull the trigger on models I'm on the fence about.

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[KeepCalm&Carrion]

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