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Awesome Job!!!!
I will definitely buy one of each StainlessSteel-Versions. That's a fact!
Will the blade thickness be the same as with the "old" ones? (3/32"/2,5mm)
I will definitely buy one of each StainlessSteel-Versions. That's a fact!
Will the blade thickness be the same as with the "old" ones? (3/32"/2,5mm)
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I know that some people dont like the new tip, myself never minding the old ones, but i think this knife will still be as close to perfect for cost as anyone can hope. the only thing im not sure if i like the look of is the clip, however not bashing it, im sure it functions well, and the only way to know is to have it in my hand and see. great job to the spyderco team for producing two more excellent knives.
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Why 4?
I see that on the handles it sais Delica / Endura 4. Why 4? Where's no. 3? OK, let's say the CF Delica was the Delica III. But what about the Endura III? :confused:
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This is correct. There was the FRN Endura C10 and the FRN Delica C11. Than the SS Delica C43 (later known as Delica II) and Endura C47 (Endura II). Therefore my question: why it sais 4 on the handles? :confused:Piet.S wrote:I think the current models are the third models. The current stainless handle models are often called the Delica II and Endura II.
Now if I think well, the integral clip models (pre 98) could be considered the Endura / Delica I, while the updated ones (with the reversible clip) could be the Endura / Delica III. A bit forced, I agree, but it makes sense.
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Absolutely correct. The original Delica/Endura models with the integral clip are the no. I's, the SS models are the no. II's, and then the current models with the barrel pin clip is considered the III. So the new upgrades will make this the 4th incarnation of this infamous design.dialex wrote:This is correct. There was the FRN Endura C10 and the FRN Delica C11. Than the SS Delica C43 (later known as Delica II) and Endura C47 (Endura II). Therefore my question: why it sais 4 on the handles? :confused:
Now if I think well, the integral clip models (pre 98) could be considered the Endura / Delica I, while the updated ones (with the reversible clip) could be the Endura / Delica III. A bit forced, I agree, but it makes sense.
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I should probably save this post to my computer since it’s a commonly asked question. There really is no direct answer to this one, since knives, although primitive tools, can be and are specialized. There are too many variables involved to answer the simple question of “which one is best for you?”. Things like: your hand size, and shape, the local laws, and intended use play into the formula of which one best suits you.
Example:
# 9 suggested the Delica, and an excellent suggestion it is. It’s a three-inch blade (legal in most jurisdictions) with great ergonomics, lightweight, and to use a technical term: “just downright dandy”. With all these things going for it, one might question, “Why isn’t it considered the be-all-end-all, best, general, all-around knife?” The answer is that not everyone is the same. Some people live in areas where even a three-inch blade is illegal, others may have hands that are better suited to something larger. The bottom line is that we’re all different, that’s why so many models are produced.
I suggest looking at the knives you use, or have used extensively in the past. The ones that you liked so much that even though you no longer use them, you still pull them out on occasion just to bring back the memories. Basically, find out what works best for you. Then, go to as many knife dealers as you can, and start fondling. I know this can be frowned upon if you don’t buy, but your intent is to buy, and you want to find the one you want (would suggest buying at the shop you fondle).
Another variable that comes into play when making this decision is “intended use”. EDC is a great term to start with, but EDC for a CEO, may result in a much different use that EDC for a first responder.
That said:
IMHO, if I am looking for a single folding knife that I will use for any and every task that may come up, and one I will carry with me everywhere, I would try to get the one that covers the most tasks, while still being comfortable in my hand. I would want one that provides both a serrated edge, and a plain edge (CE, or even double blade) because both edge types have their specific uses. Because of that, I would want the blade long enough (in a single blade) so that I don’t have to worry about “running out of blade when I want to use only one type. I would prefer a four-inch blade in this instance. It gives what are essentially two, two-inch blades on one plane. My choice is the Endura because not only is it more economical than other four-inch blades in the line-up, but also because of it’s light weight. Ergonomics will be good on just about any Spyderco/byrd.
Another variable to consider is price. How much are you willing to spend? The general rule with any tool is that “you get what you pay for”. I am not so sure that that rule is so important with the variations in the Spyderco line-up. While I am sure that some of the pricier knives do have some advantages over the Endura/Delica line, I just can’t say for sure if those differences will matter to me as an ELU.
There’s probably some here that I haven’t covered, and I am sure others will be able to fill in. Best thing is to figure out what suites you best, then look for it in the Spyderco line.
Whew!
Ps.
This is what # 9 meant by new one.
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.p ... post182141
They are also making one with ZDP-189, so if your getting a Delica, wait for that one.
Example:
# 9 suggested the Delica, and an excellent suggestion it is. It’s a three-inch blade (legal in most jurisdictions) with great ergonomics, lightweight, and to use a technical term: “just downright dandy”. With all these things going for it, one might question, “Why isn’t it considered the be-all-end-all, best, general, all-around knife?” The answer is that not everyone is the same. Some people live in areas where even a three-inch blade is illegal, others may have hands that are better suited to something larger. The bottom line is that we’re all different, that’s why so many models are produced.
I suggest looking at the knives you use, or have used extensively in the past. The ones that you liked so much that even though you no longer use them, you still pull them out on occasion just to bring back the memories. Basically, find out what works best for you. Then, go to as many knife dealers as you can, and start fondling. I know this can be frowned upon if you don’t buy, but your intent is to buy, and you want to find the one you want (would suggest buying at the shop you fondle).
Another variable that comes into play when making this decision is “intended use”. EDC is a great term to start with, but EDC for a CEO, may result in a much different use that EDC for a first responder.
That said:
IMHO, if I am looking for a single folding knife that I will use for any and every task that may come up, and one I will carry with me everywhere, I would try to get the one that covers the most tasks, while still being comfortable in my hand. I would want one that provides both a serrated edge, and a plain edge (CE, or even double blade) because both edge types have their specific uses. Because of that, I would want the blade long enough (in a single blade) so that I don’t have to worry about “running out of blade when I want to use only one type. I would prefer a four-inch blade in this instance. It gives what are essentially two, two-inch blades on one plane. My choice is the Endura because not only is it more economical than other four-inch blades in the line-up, but also because of it’s light weight. Ergonomics will be good on just about any Spyderco/byrd.
Another variable to consider is price. How much are you willing to spend? The general rule with any tool is that “you get what you pay for”. I am not so sure that that rule is so important with the variations in the Spyderco line-up. While I am sure that some of the pricier knives do have some advantages over the Endura/Delica line, I just can’t say for sure if those differences will matter to me as an ELU.
There’s probably some here that I haven’t covered, and I am sure others will be able to fill in. Best thing is to figure out what suites you best, then look for it in the Spyderco line.
Whew!
Ps.
This is what # 9 meant by new one.
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.p ... post182141
They are also making one with ZDP-189, so if your getting a Delica, wait for that one.
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You know, I do have to say that I'm a little sad that the SS models aren't going to be full screw construction like the FRN models. I really prefer to have screw construction on a knife I'm going to carry as an EDC. Come on Spyderco, give us screw construction on the Stainless models too, we can handle it.
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Thanks for the reply Sal. It's great to hear. I really hope that the market does in fact embrace the higher end steel like I think it will.sal wrote:Hi ASMitty.
We'd like to watch reaction to the higher end steel first. If the market accepts the higher cost SS model and wants screw consrtruction, we can do it.
sal
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Excellent news!!! I am ready for two live Endura and two trainers.
Would be nice to have a Police model with clip holes for left-handed carry thinking of what has been done with these folders. Been wanting to carry the Police left-handed...missed the run done several years ago.
Would be nice to have a Police model with clip holes for left-handed carry thinking of what has been done with these folders. Been wanting to carry the Police left-handed...missed the run done several years ago.
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Kevin S. Gallagher
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