Titanium Tenacious

[Razor G43]

I like aus-8 steel. I am kinda getting tired of the super steel that takes an hour to sharpen. I have a Para 2 in BD1N and Cruwear and these are great! Yes, I have diamond stones.

[ugaarguy]

I like aus-8 steel. I am kinda getting tired of the super steel that takes an hour to sharpen. I have a Para 2 in BD1N and Cruwear and these are great! Yes, I have diamond stones.

I'm genuinely curious as to which specific diamond stones you have and what steels are taking you an hour to sharpen. My S90V Native 5 doesn't take an hour to sharpen on my KME with diamonds, and S90V is the steel that takes me the longest to sharpen. S30V and M390 are a breeze with a guided system with diamonds.

[Razor G43]

Spyderco sharpmaker. Maybe, not an hour, but I have got lazy, and just like easy to sharpen steel. I am not outside as I use to be on my job and almost always close to a strop.

[ZrowsN1s]

For me super steel takes hours to 'reprofile' not to sharpen. Sharpening is easy.

Reading through this thread I saw two comments (same post) I thought I'd comment on. If it doesn't perform like Spyderco's other offerings... is it really letting people get a 'Spyderco' for a cheaper price? Or just a cheaper knife. And rather than buy one with a nice handle and another with a nice blade... why not just buy one good Spyderco from Golden, Taichung, or Seki?

[Fireman]

Maybe Spyderco will add varieties of steel to this new knife/ti combo. The Ti-Ten…

[zhyla]

MIf it doesn't perform like Spyderco's other offerings... is it really letting people get a 'Spyderco' for a cheaper price?

I think people let the steel distract them from the fact that the Tenacious is a great knife design. And that’s on Spyderco. No other company on the planet sells an 8Cr knife for more than $35. It’s a confusing thing to do which distracts from the Tenacious being a great knife regardless of steel.

[Wartstein]

Reading through this thread I saw two comments (same post) I thought I'd comment on. If it doesn't perform like Spyderco's other offerings... is it really letting people get a 'Spyderco' for a cheaper price? Or just a cheaper knife. And rather than buy one with a nice handle and another with a nice blade... why not just buy one good Spyderco from Golden, Taichung, or Seki?

One reason at least for me:

There actually are not many comparable offerings from "Golden, Taichung or Seki" featuring a liner- or frame lock, if any at all..

Spydiechef comes to mind, but that´s a different knife (positive blade angle for example).
Same goes for the Gayle Bradley (high hollow/sabre grind, edge not really all the way to the handle...)
Both also (at least the Chef) more expensive than two Tenacious (for a blade swap).

Then we have the Millie 1 (who knows how long it will stay in the lineup...) - also different (a lot larger package, finger choil...)

The Tenacious gives one a ton of cutting edge (pretty much Endura-ish) in a closed package not much longer than a Delica but still a full, four finger, hand filling grip for even my not-small hands, edge really all the way back to the handle, and the convenience and better ergos (over a comp.lock) of a good linerlock... In it´s own capaciities pretty unique imo.

[Wartstein]

One aspect not mentioned yet (I think??):

The Titanium Tenacious is the "real" "Tenacious lightweight"

For those who care for low weight (according to Spydercos own specs)

- Titanium Tenacious: 3.3 oz / 93 gram

- Tenacious "Lightweight" in FRN (S35VN version): 3.8 oz / 108 gram

[Freediver]

NationalKnives had a great deal on these yesterday so I had to pick one up. The steel doesn’t bother me for a budget knife.

[kennethsime]

One aspect not mentioned yet (I think??):

The Titanium Tenacious is the "real" "Tenacious lightweight"

For those who care for low weight (according to Spydercos own specs)

- Titanium Tenacious: 3.3 oz / 93 gram

- Tenacious "Lightweight" in FRN (S35VN version): 3.8 oz / 108 gram

Interesting, I hadn't noticed that yet.

Carrying my Tenacious LW today and it is particularly heavy for a "lightweight" model.

[ZrowsN1s]

Reading through this thread I saw two comments (same post) I thought I'd comment on. If it doesn't perform like Spyderco's other offerings... is it really letting people get a 'Spyderco' for a cheaper price? Or just a cheaper knife. And rather than buy one with a nice handle and another with a nice blade... why not just buy one good Spyderco from Golden, Taichung, or Seki?

One reason at least for me:

There actually are not many comparable offerings from "Golden, Taichung or Seki" featuring a liner- or frame lock, if any at all..

Spydiechef comes to mind, but that´s a different knife (positive blade angle for example).
Same goes for the Gayle Bradley (high hollow/sabre grind, edge not really all the way to the handle...)
Both also (at least the Chef) more expensive than two Tenacious (for a blade swap).

Then we have the Millie 1 (who knows how long it will stay in the lineup...) - also different (a lot larger package, finger choil...)

The Tenacious gives one a ton of cutting edge (pretty much Endura-ish) in a closed package not much longer than a Delica but still a full, four finger, hand filling grip for even my not-small hands, edge really all the way back to the handle, and the convenience and better ergos (over a comp.lock) of a good linerlock... In it´s own capaciities pretty unique imo.

Fair enough. This doesn't occur to me because I'm not a huge fan of liner locks, but there are not a lot of frame lock options in that blade style.

[Wallach]

If this was made in Golden and in a steel the market (and Spyderco) already respects, there would have been a huge push for this knife. Like the next big thing for Spyderco kind of big. Just don't get it, honestly.

[weeping minora]

8cr is a fantastic knife steel.

I'd be more interested in a micarta handle, which would inadvertently revert this back to a standard linerlock. I just don't like Ti as a handle material. I hope those who do enjoy the model, as it does look nice!

[holokai]

I don’t have a problem with Spyderco’s 8Cr but for that price could they at least do CTS-XHP?

Has anyone confirmed if the M4 blade can be swapped in? Defeats the purpose as you’d need a donor knife but at least the frame/blade material would seem more equivalent.

[aicolainen]

This offering isn’t for me so I’m definitely not one to say what this is or isn’t, but after giving it some more thought it starts to make a little bit sense.
While titanium handles are no doubt quite popular among some who use their knives extensively, it’s also my impression it’s maybe THE most popular handle material among those who rarely cut anything and primarily wants the pocket bling. 8Cr in a well made knife kind of makes sense in that use case, but as I touched on before, I’m not sure how well a knife without bragging rights will perform in this segment.

Another way to look at it, that I just came to realize, is how this fits into the primary market segment for the existing Tenacious variants. As I understand it’s a popular choice for the working man or woman who just wants a reliable cutting tool without worrying about losing it or breaking it. People who maybe go through a couple of knives a year. 8cr is just fine, and this could be a way to get that familiar tool in a slightly lighter and / or nicer package - whatever the motivation would be.
For those who are a little more tool savvy, there’s always the possibility of getting “replacement” blades in the form of base 8cr models or even s35 or m4, when the old one breaks or wears out.
Still not convinced this will be a home run, but slightly more optimistic that there could be a segment or two of the market that is ready for this offering.

[apollo]

That this variant of this Ti knife is 8cr is probably to keep its price lower for the next one that will have slightly better steel. Myself i only get turned off due to the shade of the blue color they made the handle.
If it was darker it would have bin way better for me.

[MUAlum2013]

Oh, I'm grabbing them for sure.

And I think keeping them in 8Cr was a genius move. Now people can get one of Sal's most iconic designs in a sexy Ti/RIL configuration without investing in sharpening systems that cost more than the knife. Anyone can maintain 8Cr, and it performs better than most of us ever need.

'without investing in sharpening systems that cost more than the knife.'

A $30 worksharp field sharpener is all you need. Also, no it was not genius. IT was a very bad decision to use 8cr. This could have been a fkn home run if they had upgraded the steel even a tiny bit OR of they wanted to keep 8cr then charge like $99. So many people are disappointed with this.

[MUAlum2013]

Well, the response on the Millie club which has a buttload of members is not good. Even if 8Cr can perform, most "knife people" will snob it immediately.
And I have several 8Cr Spydercos and honestly don't appreciate it in PE. If I take my Bow River out I usually have to take it to the stones during the day. It's not a death sentence, not at all. But when you cut something that is not necessarily made to be cut with a knife and realize during the cut that you need to sharpen it already, it's a bummer

It also has nothing to do with steel snobs. Has to do with value. Spending $130 for 8cr is stupid. Straight up. Using steel snobs as the excuse all the time is getting old. I love super steels but I also love deals. Spending this money for 8cr is outrageous. I also have no issue with 8cr either. If they had priced it at $89 then this is a different convo.

[Freediver]

First impressions out of the box:
I am not sure why I waited so long to try out a tenacious. The ergonomics are fantastic. The lock up is solid. The titanium scales are beautiful and ultra light. Can the steel be better? Sure but I picked this up for $95 and feel it is a bargain at that price. I plan on using this as a work horse and the steel should perform just fine, and will be easy to sharpen. I prefer to buy USA made knives but don’t let the country of origin on this one dissuade you. After all it is still a Spyderco, and a very well made one at that.

[Wartstein]

First impressions out of the box:
I am not sure why I waited so long to try out a tenacious. The ergonomics are fantastic. The lock up is solid. ....

Glad you finally did!

The Tenacious is a great design indeed - for me personally in that size category "the better PM2" (which is not against the PM2 at all (also great design), but FOR the Tenacious)

Compared to a PM2 with the Tenacious one get´s an Endura length (and so clearly longer) cutting edge in a clearly shorter package, still a full grip on the tall, handfilling handle even for larger hands, a thinner blade with I think still an a bit more robust tip, and the for me personally superior linerlock (makes for better handle ergos and a more "natural" use).

Now with the Titanium Tenacious one can even have noticable lighter weight than a PM2 offers (while th FRN Tenacious "lightweight" has practically PM2 weight)