Why does spyderco use XHP for fancier knives rather than harder working knives?

[sn0wman72]

There was an XHP Manix2 LW exclusive from KC and Cutlery Shoppe puts out Golden made XHP folders too like the Shaman and PM2 among others.

Was there an XHP Shaman? Man-O-Man if so I missed out on that one. :confused:

I still have to get a Shaman but have not had the cash when these Sprints come out. It's hard on a budget.

XHP Shaman's, Cutlery Shoppe exclusive. Stonewashed and DLC blades...

[nerdlock]

I love XHP for its toughness relative to edge retention as well as a bit of stain resistance to boot, and it's not as fancypants as the M390-upwards steels. I got 2 Shamans from CS, the DLC and the Stonewash although my main user is the DLC one while the Stonewash is just sitting around brand new in its box. The Slysz Series of XHP steels are IMHO the best blade finishes Spyderco ever produced.

Maybe you mean a Shaman, G-10 Manix XHP that isn't a dealer exclusive? I'd love that idea too. Personally I'd love to see more XHP and CruWear in regular production models. A Micarta XHP production Shaman would be amazing, as the CruCarta/Z-Carta models are rare enough to render them for hard usage.

[Evil D]

Because part of the selling point of those fancier knives is a fancier steel. Why they don't offer this steel (and maybe others) in a more user friendly priced model is the real question.

[WRB]

Gotta keep your eyes peeled

[JD Spydo]

I'd be happy to see XHP replace S30V all around.

I'll give you a "HIGH FIVE" on that one for sure. I like XHP considerably better than I ever liked S30V. I would love to see them do a C-44 Dyad model in XHP>> because it's proven that XHP is a decent steel for serrations as well as plain edges.

I would consider any model with XHP steel.

[Chuck James]

There was an XHP Manix2 LW exclusive from KC and Cutlery Shoppe puts out Golden made XHP folders too like the Shaman and PM2 among others.

Was there an XHP Shaman? Man-O-Man if so I missed out on that one. :confused:

I still have to get a Shaman but have not had the cash when these Sprints come out. It's hard on a budget.

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[S-3 ranch]

Ha - that is kind of a cool concept: Butter knives made from premium steels. CPM S110V butter knife!

(Sorry, straying off topic entirely...) :D

Lots of s110v butter knives are out there, just because people need the time , equipment, patience to sharpen It and can’t do it

[metaphoricalsimile]

Because part of the selling point of those fancier knives is a fancier steel. Why they don't offer this steel (and maybe others) in a more user friendly priced model is the real question.

I would offer that the FRN Chaparral is exactly this. A reasonably priced XHP knife. I guess XHP got a reputation for fanciness due to being used by a lot of custom makers? It just seems like such a good working steel. I think what I'd *really* love to see is an XHP Para 3 LW or Native 5 LW priced in the low $100 dollar range. I would be willing to bet that the steel is tough enough to perform well in your beloved SE as well :P

[kodai78]

I’d love to see more XHP as well. Could it make it to Seki City models? The Rockjumper would be a good choice. Any of the Golden made knives in XHP would be awesome.

[TomAiello]

In my real world uses, I honestly can't tell the difference between XHP and s30v. The only identical platform I have to compare is the Manix, but what advantages do you guys see of XHP over s30v?

[sal]

I've put in your request.

sal

[Airlsee]

I don't think they're too fancy to use. I would make other choices if I were carrying a knife while doing a house remodeling project though.

That was very succinctly put.

I will be excited to see more XHP out of Golden & Seki.

[metaphoricalsimile]

I've put in your request.

sal

!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[metaphoricalsimile]

In my real world uses, I honestly can't tell the difference between XHP and s30v. The only identical platform I have to compare is the Manix, but what advantages do you guys see of XHP over s30v?

Less likely to chip when accidentally encountering hard foreign materials in your cutting path, as happens when doing manual labor pretty frequently.

[The Meat man]

Isn't the downside of XHP less corrosion resistance? Compared to say S30V.

[Bamalt1]

Isn't the downside of XHP less corrosion resistance? Compared to say S30V.

Yep. XHP is considered "semi stainless" like D2.

[jkurtz7]

I would like to see more XHP in Golden production models because I don't buy anything with vanadium carbides.

[Steeltoez83]

I tend to put higher edge finishes on xhp. Maybe it's my skewed perception but I feel like xhp holds that higher polish slightly better than s30v. So in my mind it's better for smaller cutting edge knives.

[ZrowsN1s]

Because part of the selling point of those fancier knives is a fancier steel. Why they don't offer this steel (and maybe others) in a more user friendly priced model is the real question.

The Native lightweight is (used to be) the only model you can reliably get a variety of high end steels in a user friendly knife. LC200N, S30V, S110V, MAXAMET all production. Not to mention that S90V Native LW at ridiculously low prices pop up all the time.

Is there another Spyderco knife that is available in more production steels than the Native 5?

[JRinFL]

I found XHP to sharpen easier than S30v. I’d have no concerns if it replaced S30v altogether, but I don’t think they ever produced enough to meet demand. The last time someone, Cold Steel, tried to use it as a production steel, they had to drop it and switch.