matriarch 2 salt

[Frozenspyder]

If h1 would give it a tougher tip, I'd buy one for that reason alone. The tip is usually my major hangup with reverse s blades.

[knivesandbooks]

I'd buy it if it was made but I wouldn't personally fight spyderco to make it. I would us it as an SD and to have a three piece collection of the pac salt, spyderhawk, and the matriarch. Not dying for it but i would buy it.

[ladybug93]

i know people worry about the tip of the matriarch, but i don't. for me, the matriarch is a knife you almost never use. i would possibly use it occasionally for very light tasks, but it would likely just stay in my waistband for defensive situations. if i ever really have to use it, i couldn't care less if it breaks in an attacker. even if it was in perfect condition, i might not ever carry it again because i'd probably put it away as the knife that saved my life and buy a replacement. maybe that's just me, but $100ish is a small price to pay for staying alive.

[curlyhairedboy]

I've seen on my hawkbill H1 models that the tip is much more likely to bend than break.

[ThePeacent]

I've broken the very tip of my two Tasmans more than once, but a quick regrind makes it deadly sharp again, and no big loss



never on my Spyderhawk, but yes, H1 is tough stuff



and most bends are easily repaired

[guywithopinion]

There is nothing about the Matriarch or Lil Matriarch that couldn't be improved by H1.

I imagine the cost would not be improved by going from VG10 to H1.

[RadioactiveSpyder]

H1 versions of popular Seki knives to date have all been about the same price as the VG-10 ones...

[Evil D]

There is nothing about the Matriarch or Lil Matriarch that couldn't be improved by H1.

I imagine the cost would not be improved by going from VG10 to H1.

I could be wrong but I recall reading that VG10 is surprisingly expensive. I'm not sure about H1?

[guywithopinion]

Interesting. I thought they changed the Rock Salt to the Rock (in VG10) to save costs. And I thought I've generally read Spyderco mentioning that H1 was quite expensive. Maybe on smaller blades the difference is not that big relative to the rest of the knife cost.

[ZrowsN1s]

There is nothing about the Matriarch or Lil Matriarch that couldn't be improved by H1.

I imagine the cost would not be improved by going from VG10 to H1.

That's a valid point, it's not much more expensive, but it is slightly more for H1. There's about a $7 dollar price difference between a vg10 delica and a delica salt 2. It would be more than worth it to me though.

[ladybug93]

anyway, it’s worth considering. it seems the move would turn the knife from a “maybe someday” to a “definitely now” for at least a few people on this forum and i imagine others as well. it’s always nice when a defensive weapon has reliability that requires absolutely zero maintenance.

[ladybug93]

zrowsn1s has been posting his new matriarch and made me think of this thread again. i thought i'd break out the aed and shock it back to life.

reasons to salt the matriarch:
1. h1 is superior to vg10 in spyderedge.
2. h1 has extreme toughness that would benefit the matriarch design, especially at the fragile tip.
3. for the saltier among us, h1 would save the knife we'd want on us every day, and in every situation, from extra maintenance that comes from potential corrosion issues.
4. pacific salt handles, h1 steel, the matriarch stamp (or whatever they use to cut the blades), ticn, and the ability to grind a spyderedge matriarch all already reside in the same factory. literally every piece of the puzzle is already under a single roof just waiting to be realized.
5. h1 would add a capability to this knife that would make it more desirable and increase sales for the model.
6. i would happily buy a few.

[steelcity16]

i'd still like a lil' matriarch in H1 SE

[cabfrank]

Same same.

[ZrowsN1s]

Both the lil Matriarch and the full sized version would be great a salt knives. Ideally I'd like an all black option besides the yellow, and prefer waved.

I've used both Tasmans and Matriarchs for box cutting and edc use. Both work great.

[Jim Malone]

Just don't make it in a yellow handle! Yellow isn't the most "blendable" colour when you are not wearing it in a non aquatic enviroment ( say a black tie event or the inner city)!

[Mushroom]

zrowsn1s has been posting his new matriarch and made me think of this thread again. i thought i'd break out the aed and shock it back to life.

reasons to salt the matriarch:
1. h1 is superior to vg10 in spyderedge.
2. h1 has extreme toughness that would benefit the matriarch design, especially at the fragile tip.
3. for the saltier among us, h1 would save the knife we'd want on us every day, and in every situation, from extra maintenance that comes from potential corrosion issues.
4. pacific salt handles, h1 steel, the matriarch stamp (or whatever they use to cut the blades), ticn, and the ability to grind a spyderedge matriarch all already reside in the same factory. literally every piece of the puzzle is already under a single roof just waiting to be realized.
5. h1 would add a capability to this knife that would make it more desirable and increase sales for the model.
6. i would happily buy a few.

Sorry to be off topic, but just throwing it out there, the blades are cut using a wire EDM.

Also, I’ve often wondered how many sources they use for their knife parts in other countries. For example, is a TiCN coated Matriarch made entirely in the same facility, or does Spyderco work with multiple different manufacturers in Japan to source different needs? Does the manufacturer they use to cut and grind their blades also do the TiCN coating and injection molding for the handles? I know this is probably a question for Sal but it’s just something I’ve always been curious about.

On topic, I would probably prefer a Lil Matriarch Salt over a full size Matriarch Salt.

[levs18]

I think the matriarch is an ideal candidate for H1. I’d be in.

[ChrisinHove]

Ideal for pirates, no doubt, especially if it’s waved…

[ladybug93]

reasons to salt the matriarch:
1. h1 is superior to vg10 in spyderedge.
2. h1 has extreme toughness that would benefit the matriarch design, especially at the fragile tip.
3. for the saltier among us, h1 would save the knife we'd want on us every day, and in every situation, from extra maintenance that comes from potential corrosion issues.
4. pacific salt handles, h1 steel, the matriarch stamp (or whatever they use to cut the blades), ticn, and the ability to grind a spyderedge matriarch all already reside in the same factory. literally every piece of the puzzle is already under a single roof just waiting to be realized.
5. h1 would add a capability to this knife that would make it more desirable and increase sales for the model.
6. i would happily buy a few.

it's been a few months, so i figured i'd bring this up again. i'm guessing spyderco's silence on the idea means it'll never happen, but it makes so much sense to me that i can't stop thinking about it. i really want a black matriarch ii salt with ticn and a wave. and if there was a lil matriarch salt with the same configuration, i'd definitely buy both.

i know spyderco listens to us. that's why i keep bringing this up. i hope they'll consider it.