matriarch 2 salt

[ladybug93]

has there ever been mention of a matriarch 2 wave salt? i carry a pacific salt in my waistband whenever i’m at the beach, pool, or working out. i think the matriarch would be perfect for this application.

thoughts?

[curlyhairedboy]

a Matriarch 2 with the edge retention of SE H1 would be amazing to see.

[zhyla]

Specifically for defense in rust prone environments? Or you like the knife as an EDC and want a worry free version? I think for EDC a Tasman Salt would be a fine compromise.

[Evil D]

I might be in for a Matriarch 2 in H1 with an Emerson wave...not typically something I care for but I think I could find a use for that particular combo.

[ThePeacent]

discussed many times in this forum, :)
I'd grab one in a heartbeat!!

The H1 steel, its toughness and durability, edge retention in SE, all are appropriate for a IWB or all-weather carry in any place at any time, and given that the Matriarch Wave is already on an Endura handle like the Pacific or Spyderhawk, it's a no-brainer :rolleyes:

[ladybug93]

Specifically for defense in rust prone environments? Or you like the knife as an EDC and want a worry free version? I think for EDC a Tasman Salt would be a fine compromise.

it would be specifically for a no-maintenance defense tool, but the shape would also be utilitarian enough to fill the same role as the tasman salt (at least i would think that would be the case). it would also be nice to have the wave function for easier draw in the water in the event of an emergency.

discussed many times in this forum, :)
I'd grab one in a heartbeat!!

The H1 steel, its toughness and durability, edge retention in SE, all are appropriate for a IWB or all-weather carry in any place at any time, and given that the Matriarch Wave is already on an Endura handle like the Pacific or Spyderhawk, it's a no-brainer :rolleyes:

yes!

[zhyla]

it would be specifically for a no-maintenance defense tool, but the shape would also be utilitarian enough

A hawkbill has similar properties. The Matriarch 2 is already a pretty niche knife, a salt version seems ultra niche.

it would also be nice to have the wave function for easier draw in the water in the event of an emergency.

Wave doesn't work with all clothing types... are you wearing pants in the water?

[ladybug93]

it would be specifically for a no-maintenance defense tool, but the shape would also be utilitarian enough

A hawkbill has similar properties. The Matriarch 2 is already a pretty niche knife, a salt version seems ultra niche.

it would also be nice to have the wave function for easier draw in the water in the event of an emergency.

Wave doesn't work with all clothing types... are you wearing pants in the water?

i wouldn’t call it ultra-niche. the matriarch is already a knife that is most likely carried for defense and almost never used. having it made with a steel that takes no maintenance at all would be beneficial. just stick it in your waistband every morning and don’t think about it until you need it.

of course i’m not wearing pants in the water. i would be wearing board shorts. i assume they are sturdy enough to deploy the knife, but if it didn’t work, the knife isn’t any harder to open than the pacific salt i already carry now.

this knife would benefit from being made in h1. they could even stop making it in vg10 since spyderco has already asserted that vg10 isn’t as good as h1 in se anyway. it would still be a niche knife, but it would have twice as much going for it if it was made with h1 instead.

[ZrowsN1s]

I'd get one of these.

[ladybug93]

i’ve always thought it was a cool knife, but never picked one up. if there was a blacked out matriarch 2 salt, it would be much harder to withhold my funds.

[steelcity16]

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this knife would benefit from being made in h1. they could even stop making it in vg10 since spyderco has already asserted that vg10 isn’t as good as h1 in se anyway. it would still be a niche knife, but it would have twice as much going for it if it was made with h1 instead.

Absolutely. I think a blacked out H1 SE version would probably appeal to more people than the current VG10 SE. Id probably get one to check out in H1 SE, where I dont really have any interest in the VG10 version.

[cabfrank]

I'd love it as a Salt, H-1 SE, but I wouldn't go for the wave.

[curlyhairedboy]

If there was a DLC H1 SE waved version, that would become a priority for sure.

[zhyla]

i wouldn’t call it ultra-niche. the matriarch is already a knife that is most likely carried for defense and almost never used. having it made with a steel that takes no maintenance at all would be beneficial. just stick it in your waistband every morning and don’t think about it until you need it.

Unless you're submersing it in water VG-10 is already quite rust resistant. The amount of people who want to carry a Matriarch 2 and want to do it in water is bound to be quite tiny. It's ultra-niche. I don't expect the Matriarch 2 is a large seller to begin with -- the delica sized Lil Matriarch was discontinued pretty quickly.

[ladybug93]

i wouldn’t call it ultra-niche. the matriarch is already a knife that is most likely carried for defense and almost never used. having it made with a steel that takes no maintenance at all would be beneficial. just stick it in your waistband every morning and don’t think about it until you need it.

Unless you're submersing it in water VG-10 is already quite rust resistant. The amount of people who want to carry a Matriarch 2 and want to do it in water is bound to be quite tiny. It's ultra-niche. I don't expect the Matriarch 2 is a large seller to begin with -- the delica sized Lil Matriarch was discontinued pretty quickly.

the matriarch is a niche knife and so are all the salt knives. by bringing those two together, you don’t make it more niche, you make it more desireable across both niches and possibly even more popular. i’m talking about making the knife more desirable to more people. i’m talking about a move that would lead to more sales of the knife; not less. h1 only improves the knife for its intended purposes. no one would be worse off for carrying a matriarch salt and all the tooling options already exist for the knife, so it’s just a matter of using a different sheet of steel that is already in use at that factory. as someone else stated above, it’s a no-brainer.

[ThePeacent]

I'd get one of these.

+1 or two :rolleyes:

i’ve always thought it was a cool knife, but never picked one up. if there was a blacked out matriarch 2 salt, it would be much harder to withhold my funds.

me too, since I discovered SE H1 I don't buy anything else serrated, though I've been tempted by the Matriarchs and have a Lil'Matriarch one (my only knife with VG10)
I'd get one in a heartbeat :cool:

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this knife would benefit from being made in h1. they could even stop making it in vg10 since spyderco has already asserted that vg10 isn’t as good as h1 in se anyway. it would still be a niche knife, but it would have twice as much going for it if it was made with h1 instead.

Absolutely. I think a blacked out H1 SE version would probably appeal to more people than the current VG10 SE. Id probably get one to check out in H1 SE, where I dont really have any interest in the VG10 version.

I love my blacked out Pacific Salt, a Matriarch in that configuration would be perfect :spyder: and VG10 is no better than H1 for SE; and given this knife's purpose and philosophy even less

Unless you're submersing it in water VG-10 is already quite rust resistant. The amount of people who want to carry a Matriarch 2 and want to do it in water is bound to be quite tiny. It's ultra-niche. I don't expect the Matriarch 2 is a large seller to begin with -- the delica sized Lil Matriarch was discontinued pretty quickly.

I color or pit VG10 and most steels if carried IWB on a hot Summer day, no sea or water needed. In a few days I'd bet the pivot would be rusted and the internals too
That's why all my Spydercos except for two are H1

i’m talking about making the knife more desirable to more people. i’m talking about a move that would lead to more sales of the knife; not less. h1 only improves the knife for its intended purposes.

Exactly. It's not making "another" matriarch but rather replacing the current one for a more logical, attractive and purpose-fit knife with H1

That was my thought too since I knew about this model

[curlyhairedboy]

I've come to realize that sweat and sweat mist is far more of a threat to spydies than salt water immersion.

[ZrowsN1s]

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me too, since I discovered SE H1 I don't buy anything else serrated, though I've been tempted by the Matriarchs and have a Lil'Matriarch one (my only knife with VG10)
I'd get one in a heartbeat :cool:

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this knife would benefit from being made in h1. they could even stop making it in vg10 since spyderco has already asserted that vg10 isn’t as good as h1 in se anyway. it would still be a niche knife, but it would have twice as much going for it if it was made with h1 instead.

Absolutely. I think a blacked out H1 SE version would probably appeal to more people than the current VG10 SE. Id probably get one to check out in H1 SE, where I dont really have any interest in the VG10 version.

I love my blacked out Pacific Salt, a Matriarch in that configuration would be perfect :spyder: and VG10 is no better than H1 for SE; and given this knife's purpose and philosophy even less

Unless you're submersing it in water VG-10 is already quite rust resistant. The amount of people who want to carry a Matriarch 2 and want to do it in water is bound to be quite tiny. It's ultra-niche. I don't expect the Matriarch 2 is a large seller to begin with -- the delica sized Lil Matriarch was discontinued pretty quickly.

I color or pit VG10 and most steels if carried IWB on a hot Summer day, no sea or water needed. In a few days I'd bet the pivot would be rusted and the internals too
That's why all my Spydercos except for two are H1

i’m talking about making the knife more desirable to more people. i’m talking about a move that would lead to more sales of the knife; not less. h1 only improves the knife for its intended purposes.

Exactly. It's not making "another" matriarch but rather replacing the current one for a more logical, attractive and purpose-fit knife with H1

That was my thought too since I knew about this model

There is nothing about the Matriarch or Lil Matriarch that couldn't be improved by H1. Especially sharpening. It's not about wanting to carry it in water... Edge retention, toughness, corrosion resistance, ease of sharpening, ease of maintenance (the ability to rinse with hot water and soap and put it away wet without a second thought). They should make both models in H1, Matriarch 2 with a wave, lil matriarch without wave, I'd probably take yellow over black but that's just me.
I've almost pulled the trigger on both models a dozen times, VG-10 is what stops me. Not a bad steel, just not my favorite. I have a few vg-10 knives and I feel like I've got enough (maybe I've got room for one more), H1 though is one of those steels I can't seem to get enough of, in SE it's all I'm interested in.

[Frozenspyder]

At first, I was sure this was going to be something about fighting off sharks. But replacing the vg10 model with h1 makes perfect sense. My only concern might be the tip. It seems pretty fine. I don't have a lot of experience with h1but know it's very hard in serrated models. I'd be worried that might make the tip more brittle, but it seems to work in hawkbills just fine.

[ZrowsN1s]

.... My only concern might be the tip. ....

H1 is a tough steel, it would be more likely to bend than break. I think it would be an improvement in tip strength compared to any other steel I can think of off hand.