NYC Pen Knife

[tvenuto]

According to what I've read about cases in NYC, I think you are much safer avoiding anything that folds. A fixed blade with <4" blade (like the ark) leaves no chance for bad interpretation of the law.

When it comes out, the Ronin 2 would also be good.

I wonder if Spyderco has ever considered a LBK fixed blade. (Outside of the Spot.)

Is that true? I haven't read the law but I was under the impression that concealed fixed blades were often forbidden. I do know that's how it is where I am: no folder length limit but any concealed fixed blade is illegal (with out a CCW, which is impossible to obtain).

[Donut]

I didn't see anything about concealing being against the rules. Most states mention concealing in the law.

If you see what people recommend, everyone says not to clip something to your pocket... because the police will give you problems.

Let me see what I can find for the exact wording of the law, it would be good for reference for this thread.

[Donut]

It is kind of lengthy, so here are two links:

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?op ... iew&id=233" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.knifeup.com/new-york-knife-laws/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I guess the only interpretation for a fixed blade is if it can be called a Dagger or "dangerous knife", then it would be illegal.

They just don't mention Conceal, except when defining a balisong (the blade is concealed in the handles) and the cane sword thing. Kniferights in the intro part says NYC Requires Concealing!


These rules seem to be way too gray for my tastes.

[PolarisDesu]

Search for "friction folder"

You got me.

And thanks for the welcome!

These rules seem to be way too gray for my tastes.

The problem with all this kind of carrying laws is the high level of ambiguity that they can possess.

"It is illegal to own any knife adapted for use primarily as a weapon"

"It may be illegal to own a gravity knife, without a valid hunting and/or fishing license"

"It may be illegal to own a switchblade knife, without a valid hunting and/or fishing license"

[Able Dog]

I remember one article from KnifeRights about a guy who was arrested for carrying a UKPK in NYC. The charges were eventually thrown out and he won a suit against the Attorney's Office, but the vaguely worded laws and subjective nature of "gravity knife tests" have gone completely nutters.

Frankly I would either avoid going to NYC all together, or if that isn't possible just not carry any form of knife while there. Perhaps the Roadie would be a good option, but it depends on whether it is at all possible to Spydie-drop the blade open by pinching the deployment dimple.

[tvenuto]

I like to imagine a world where cane-swords are your main worry. A picture I found when searching "old man cane sword":



Don't mess with the colonel.

[Donut]

Yeah, but he carries a serrated plastic cane sword. :)

[PolarisDesu]

Today I got my 2nd Spyderco (and 2nd knife I own), the funny thing is that it is a Manix 2 LW s110v, is a knife designed by Eric, who is the son of Sal, the designer of the Pen Knife that I got first. So we can say that Sal got me into Spyderco, and Eric kept me in...

I will keep my Pen Knife for day carry due to the local regulations, and use the Manix 2 for daily uses in-house, where I know the edge will keep sharp for a long period of time. And I say that because I use the Pen Knife at work, low profile, of course it lacks a locking mechanism (which is a shame), but I handle it with the most care since I got it, only slicing with control (Putting things against the blade rather than otherwise), plus, the BD1, arguably a lower quality steel, gets a popping hair edge fast, which I guess ends up being beneficial, at least to my case.

PS: Funny thing, is that despite we all can agree to say that handling a knife without a locking mechanism at work may be very dangerous. I haven't get any cuts so far thankfully, rather than that, the cuts that I have received were with random things like paper or things like sharp wood.

[sal]

Hi PolarisDesu,

Welcome to our forum. Arigato for the kind words.

Penknife with CPM-S110V coming our soon. Caly 3 is a UK Penknife with a lock.

sal

[Larry_Mott]

What about a Puma 777-ish knife, one that locks closed and open?
Hand it over to the officer and wish him good luck shaking it open :)