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Which multi-tool(s) do you EDC?

I keep a black rebar on my belt:

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And a custom halfcra on my keychain:

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What about you?


I've also got my first supertool on the way from Oregon. Looks like it's basically a Rebar XL without the funny gaps on the blades ricasso, so I expect to really like it. Not sure if the weight and bulk will mean I keep EDCing the rebar and reserve the ST for the glove box or backpack, we'll see.

I also got word that leatherman is launching three new rebar colors after not offering any new ones for many years. Outdoor inspired, the email said. Should be up on their website tomorrow. Excited to take a look!
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Nothing, on my person. Unless camping. I keep a Wave attached to a backpack that goes in the car.
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I carry my SOG power pliers with me in my work bag.

Also have a backup knife in there also.
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Leatherman Wave on me, and a Surge in the car.

Years ago I used to carry a Victorinox SwissTool, but switched to Leatherman after I kept breaking fingernails while opening the tools on the Vic.
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This is an even more nitpicky topic for me than knives are. There's a particular tool combination that I really won't budge on, and the tools themselves have to be designed smart which means screwdrivers need to have usable reach for recessed screws and not be made too thick and wide to reach them (for example I don't want a flathead screwdriver at the end of a can opener bit or something). I also get really annoyed with "21 tools!" when most of the those tools are piggybacking off other tools and the wire cutters count as 3 tools because they have a little stripper notch cut it them. It's a slimy sales tactic that they're all guilty of.

I like one handed opening and outside accessible tools, but I'll compromise on this to get everything else the way I want it. I'm never using a MT so urgently that I need fast one handed opening, it's not the same as knife use for me. It's convenient but not a critical detail.

I do however really prefer "clumping tools" which is a debatable topic. This is when all the tools clump and come out at the same time when you pull one tool. I prefer this because it's easier than getting my sausage fingers in there to get some of the smaller tools out. I like to pull them all out and fan out the tool I need.

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-Pliers obviously
-Prefer replaceable wire cutters, this is why I stopped carrying Victorinox
-Philips and flat screwdrivers, good reach
-Can/bottle openers
-Scissors, and not just as an afterthought
-File, with steel and diamond texture
-Wood saw, not used often but I still want it
-Would like one of the tools to be pry bar worthy but I can use the pliers if necessary
-Knife blade, doesn't have to be anything fancy just a good beater blade, I actually don't mind combo edges here

Seems easy enough doesn't it? Why so many tools have to include 3 flathead screwdrivers is beyond me. I rarely have a need for the tiny/narrow ones.

I should probably mention my somewhat hatred for bit drivers (I'm looking at you Leatherman). For the longest time I couldn't stand them because they can't reach anything. At work I sometimes deal with computer components on machines and I'm always working with recessed or "far away" screws and the stubby bit driver is just useless here. I also hate Leatherman's flat bits, they don't bite screws well enough. The concept of having all the bit types is enticing, I just don't like the execution. But, I recently figured out how to modify impact driver bits to fit these bit holders and I've gotten around this with a usable compromise (see pics).

So this brings me to what I've carried for the last couple years. For a while it was this heavily modified Supertool 300:

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The reason I went with a Supertool to modify is because it offered the most length of tools and there were 3 models that each had the kind of tools I wanted to combine into one. You can see the custom Philips driver in the bit holder. It also has a t-shank blade holder, which I feel kinda eh about. It's nice because I can have several blade types in one tool slot, but it means I need to carry those blades with me somehow and I don't want a huge Batman belt sheath full of crap hanging off my hip. I have 2 blades in my wallet and that has worked pretty well. One disadvantage is that the blades are shorter to accommodate the t-shank itself, so when dealing something like a hacksaw blade it can only be so effective. One significant advantage of having your file on a t-shank holder is you can pull it out and use the diamond file side to sharpen the multitool knife blade. This is an enormous advantage if you actually need to do so.

This combo also has a nail puller tool which I left in there out of curiosity and I like it a lot, it's extremely beefy. The problem though is that it has to be in the very middle of the tool for packaging reasons, which makes it awkward to use as a prying tool.

You can also see I added Victorinox scissors because they're among the best you can get. They don't lock in place but that hasn't been an issue at all.

Recently I got a really good deal on a Leatherman Arc. I have hated on this tool hardcore because it's kind of BS how they're pricing it. I get that it's "USA MADE" and that's rare these days and I get the MagnaCut blade, but it's like they're pushing for tool+knife money and for me that's a little steep. If I didn't get the deal I got, I wouldn't own one.

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But here we are. First thing I did was fit my modded Philips driver into it. It doesn't close all the way but it's working so far. I'm torn on the Free Technology thing too, I like how the tools themselves can all be opened one handed, but I don't care for the butterfly knife effect of the pivots being free swinging. I sometimes like to lock my tool half open for extra reach and it doesn't work as well with this. I'm also not crazy about having magnets in a tool where metal shavings might find themselves. The second mod was getting rid of the horrible wire cutter blades they put in these, that have been known to break apart the first time I try to cut anything more than electrical wire. I put the blades from a Supertool 300EOD in them which have one flat continuous edge and cut much better.

As for the MagnaCut blade, Leatherman apparently harden these on the softer side of ideal, but it's fine for what it is. It's nice if you're not the kind of person that carries a pocket knife, but it feels a little redundant. I'm also not sure why they chose to coat them black when this steel is so corrosion resistant. I also friggin hate thumb studs and wish they'd just cut a slot hole in it like all the other blade tools.

If you're wondering how the Philips driver is made:

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I like this a lot. It's a full size/thickness head and bites into screws so much better than anything I've used in a MT, and it's replaceable if I manage to wear it out but it's also made of far better/harder steel since it's for a drill, so I may never need to. This really changed my opinion of bit drivers and there's a whole aisle of bits like this that can be modified to work the same way.

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OG Supertools here for actual work. I’ve had a couple since they were introduced. They are still going strong. Supertools are great onsite where you might not have access to real tools. I imagine the Surge is too, just don’t need one. The OG Wave and PST II get used for travel. A Micra used to live in my pocket. I have quite a few, but they get pulled out of a drawer when needed nowadays. I’ve used a couple of the other micro Leatherman tool models. They haven’t held up as well. They generally break, but; they’re good enough until that happens. I do have a Vic Spirit. Good tool, but those nail nicks..
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Got the Leatherman Wave+ for around the house and also take it camping/vacation. Bit set is very useful.

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Got a Wave+ that I keep in the car.

Got a Spirit when they first introduced it (geez, that makes it about 20 years old) that is (still) simply perfect. Tools accessible from the outside (for the first time ever), good handy pliers (though less needle-nose that LM), the Vic scissors, and a crazy useful knife blade (blunt tip, 70% serrated, 30% non-serrated near the heel of the blade) non-redundant with my main carry blade (whichever it may be).

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Got a polispectral Spirit a couple of years back to test the OHO winglets but never really carried or used it, still in a drawer somewhere.

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LM Rebar-usually stays in my truck or backpack for camping / hunting trips

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I used several different Leatherman tools starting in the late '90s. But around 2010, I settled on a Victorinox Spirit, the one with the serrated sheepsfoot blade instead of the scissors. I carried and used it for years. I no longer EDC it, but use it around the house when needed. I would probably also take it on a road trip.

The only thing multi-tool-ish that I still EDC now is what I've always EDC'd, a SAK.

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The early 2000's was my "minimalist period," when I got rid of my 25 pound tool case and replaced it with a multitool, a pocket screwdriver, a pocket multimeter, and a chopstick. I could do 90% of what was needed, and I liked the freedom of not having to lug around heavy stuff.

My multitool of choice was the blunt-nosed Gerber. I found the blunt nosed pliers to be far more useful than a long-nose. The unique feature of the Gerber is that they're not "folding." You deploy the pliers with a flick of the wrist when removing it from the sheath. I found it very handy.

One unfortunate day I broke the jaw of the pliers. It just snapped right off! I sent it back to Gerber, but I immediately bought another because I didn't want to be without this tool. A couple years passed, and one day I remembered that I never got the repaired multitool back from Gerber. I got on the phone and explained how I sent the multitool back for repair and never received it, but I had no postal receipt. The customer service lady said not to worry, that she could look it up. The records revealed that they sent the repaired multitool, but it was returned because my address didn't exist. I assured her that I really did live in a house that existed at that address, and asked if it was possible that my multitool might be residing in the Gerber Dead Letter Department. She said that there was no such department, and that my multitool was surely long gone, so she sent me a new multitool. I thought that was very cool, and it elevated my opinion of Gerber.
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This one was for a specific job that required easy one-handed operation. The tools don’t inspire confidence, but its party trick is useful.
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I carry a Leatherman Micra nowadays because the police here are getting scary about knives. They are illegal IF the cop says so.
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I’ve got TOO many multi-tools. At least a dozen, more if you count the cheap-o-
Imitations. I worked repairing commercial kitchen equipment so I always had one
On me. My late father in law was a rancher and he really liked Leatherman products.

When he passed I was given the task of passing them on to grandkids and great grandkids.
I ended up keeping about 4. I’ve got a tool in everyone of my 4 vehicles. 1 on the porch,
One on the kitchen counter, about 3 in the garage and 4 in my knife drawer.

I was gonna make a list but I’m too lazy. ;)

Here is a few notables.
Original Leatherman
Surge with bits
Skeletool
3 Gerbers including the one in the pic above mine.

Don’t get near as much use out of them as I used too (retired) but one of my
Quirks is that I view a multi-tool as a survival tool. I’m never without one
Nearby. (Along with knives,bic lighter,flashlight,pistol and first aid)
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The only ones I "EDC" are cycling-specific, meaning I always have one with me when riding.

I gave my dad a Leatherman Super Tool for Christmas when they came out, and found it NIB in his dresser drawer after he passed. It's now in my drawer, still having not been used.
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Dang. Got my Supertool in and I love the size and robust feeling, but mine is faulty and needs sent back. Was about 2 weeks from placing my order to receiving my tool, so tempted to just do a refund and order one from somewhere else with faster shipping. Planned to EDC this....

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btw here's an out of date picture of my MT collection.

Was a big fan of Kicks for a while. Got a couple with the clip and used to EDC them that way.

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Owned all three major Wave revisions too but never gelled with that model much. Also had a swiss tool I was fond of but sold it to a friend who needed a good MT.
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Finally got to try out my replacement supertool. It helped me remove the stubborn stand offs on my 15V Military 2. I had to grip it as hard as I could to work the last stand off loose, so it gave me a good idea of how it feels for harder use vs the rebar.

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Instant fan. Exactly what I wanted - a rebar XL.

I wonder why on the rebar,bond and other 4" tools they have those gaps on the blades,but they can avoid that on the supertool?

digging the blade shapes on the super tool too, and the locking mechanism feels more robust.

I see this being my new EDC, but I'll still opt for a Rebar anytime I want something more compact or lightweight.
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I am glad you posted this topic. David and others, a question about the knife blades on Leatherman. 1 is the steel 420 High Carbon Stainless? 2 Have you noticed on some models the blade seemed semi rough or unfinished, not as polished as some knife brands?
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I've got a couple cheapies still, which gets seldom used to where I don't even know where they are. Often I get frustrated by their compromises in design and functional sacrifices made in order to create a pocketable package to where I don't even want to mess with them.

Had a Skeletool CX, which I did carry quite a bit years ago, but left it in a side pocket on a backpack I forgot about, went to the airport for a flight and had to throw it away because they found it in the x ray. Was so pissed about that, I couldn't even think about it to buy another one.

Fast forward to now, and I'm coincidentally lightly shopping for another. Seems they've come quite a ways now. Looked at that Arc at REI, really nice piece, but couldn't pull the trigger.
Now that I look back, I really like the Crunch, but holy wow that cult value inflation or something!?

I actually mostly carry a Wera tool kit (have a couple different variations), or Topeak/Lezyne tool kit, in a backpack these days, along with Knipex pliers in a slip, EDC style, so the multi tool isn't exactly a requirement for me most of the time when I have more full size tools available for most tasks, but occasionally it pops up a situation where it would be nice.
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