Older, Past Models To Return To The Salt Series?
Older, Past Models To Return To The Salt Series?
As most of you who know me you also know I'm very devoted to many of Spyderco's "old school" models. I particularly like the 1998-2004 time slot and I have affectionately referred to it as "The Golden Era of Spyders" on many occasions. There was just something about that era that will never die with me.
On many occasions there have been many of us here on the Forum who have suggested some of the past models to be given another chance in Spyderco's legendary "Salt Series". I couldn't agree more. The Salt Series has been a sterling success for Spyderco and has provided many people who work or play in harsh environments to have an ideal blade that can withstand very corrosive environments. Yep Spyderco hit the ball out the park when they introduced that Salt Series.
There are two models that I personally believe would really do well in the Salt Series if they were to return with rust proof and/or rust resistant blades. First off my all time favorite Spyderco fixed blade which is the 2004 TEMPERANCE 1 model which was one of the very few Spyderco fixed blade models that was made available in SE & PE both. I personally believe if that model were re-introduced into the Salt Series with corrosion proof blade ( in SE & PE both) it would be a super fixed blade for several types of outdoorsmen. I also believe a fully rust proof version of the C-36 Military in full SE would be a big winner as well.
OK I know that many of you have a favorite model that they would like to see return again in Spyderco's Salt Series. So let's talk about which models most of you all would like to see return in the Salt Series with a rustproof blade???
On many occasions there have been many of us here on the Forum who have suggested some of the past models to be given another chance in Spyderco's legendary "Salt Series". I couldn't agree more. The Salt Series has been a sterling success for Spyderco and has provided many people who work or play in harsh environments to have an ideal blade that can withstand very corrosive environments. Yep Spyderco hit the ball out the park when they introduced that Salt Series.
There are two models that I personally believe would really do well in the Salt Series if they were to return with rust proof and/or rust resistant blades. First off my all time favorite Spyderco fixed blade which is the 2004 TEMPERANCE 1 model which was one of the very few Spyderco fixed blade models that was made available in SE & PE both. I personally believe if that model were re-introduced into the Salt Series with corrosion proof blade ( in SE & PE both) it would be a super fixed blade for several types of outdoorsmen. I also believe a fully rust proof version of the C-36 Military in full SE would be a big winner as well.
OK I know that many of you have a favorite model that they would like to see return again in Spyderco's Salt Series. So let's talk about which models most of you all would like to see return in the Salt Series with a rustproof blade???
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I am just playing the devil's advocate here, but isn't Temperance rather similar to Jumpmaster? Would a PE Jumpmaster maybe do the trick?
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The Jumpmaster is a full tang fixed blade and I am not sure if Temperance is or similar to the way a Moran is built . I would love to see a plain edge in that model along with a Salt Dyad . I have been looking hard at a Aqua Salt . All great knives . MG2
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would love to see (and buy) a Stretch 1 (linerless) done as a Salt
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Absolutely ! MG2
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i'd love an ayoob salt and a dodo salt. we got the dodo in tool steel. it would be nice to see one as a salt. hollow ground se h1 please!
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From the time I learned of the Salt Series, I've wished for a Military Salt and a Police 4 Salt, both in linerless FRN. To me, their absence felt like obvious, no-brainer gaps in Spyderco's lineup. But now, I realize that said absence will be mitigated when the Stretch 2 XL Salt is revealed, hopefully soon.
Now, if that fictional Military Salt were a Ti framelock version, it would absolutely command my attention, but only once we get the S2XL Salt.
I don't know if the P.I.T.S. counts as older, but that would be an interesting knife in MagnaCut, in the same way that Van Staal makes interesting pliers. I also think that something in the size class of the Farid K2 would make an awesome Salt!
BTW, this thread has made me want a Jumpmaster.
Now, if that fictional Military Salt were a Ti framelock version, it would absolutely command my attention, but only once we get the S2XL Salt.
I don't know if the P.I.T.S. counts as older, but that would be an interesting knife in MagnaCut, in the same way that Van Staal makes interesting pliers. I also think that something in the size class of the Farid K2 would make an awesome Salt!
BTW, this thread has made me want a Jumpmaster.
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A regular production Catcherman Salt (There was an exclusive of it years ago).
C44 Dyad Salt. With yellow linen micarta handles and LC200N.
A Salty CE Captain.
Rockjumper Salt.
C44 Dyad Salt. With yellow linen micarta handles and LC200N.
A Salty CE Captain.
Rockjumper Salt.
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I loved my TEMPERANCE 1. I liked the dimpled handle and they way it fit my hand. Great knife , also for MBC but worked in the kitchen as well. My original got chewed up by my puppie who got hold of it and chewed on the handle. That made it unuseable but i never forgot that knife. TH eTemeperance 2 just didn't appeal to me because the plastic dimpled handle got lost and the knife just got to fancy.
SO yes i would loke to see the temperance 1 back in Salt (with a black handle please!)
SO yes i would loke to see the temperance 1 back in Salt (with a black handle please!)
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No I don't believe the TEMPERANCE 1 is a full tang>> however the late Cliff Stamp said on one of his posts that the way it was constructed was good that it wasn't even necessary. He said that the TEMP 1 was constructed so well that no one with normal usage should ever have a problem with it.Manixguy@1994 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:43 amThe Jumpmaster is a full tang fixed blade and I am not sure if Temperance is or similar to the way a Moran is built . I would love to see a plain edge in that model along with a Salt Dyad . I have been looking hard at a Aqua Salt . All great knives . MG2
I've been using both my PE & SE TEMP 1 models a lot and even on some demanding jobs ever since I bought them all the way back in 2004-05. Never a problem.
I"m not at all saying anything bad about the Jumpmaster. I was thinking that the TEMP 1 with a corrosion proof blade would make a great but yet affordable fixed blade for camping, hunting, fishing ect. If you all ever owned one you would love it, guaranteed.
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I hear you Brother!! there is something about that TEMPERANCE 1 model that really grows on you. I've never had a fixed blade knife that feels so natural in my hand like the TEMP 1 has been ever since I got my first one. It truly feels like a custom made handle for my hand. If we could get Spyderco to do a PE & SE both with LC200N that would be awesome!!Jim Malone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:09 pmI loved my TEMPERANCE 1. I liked the dimpled handle and they way it fit my hand. Great knife , also for MBC but worked in the kitchen as well. My original got chewed up by my puppie who got hold of it and chewed on the handle. That made it unuseable but i never forgot that knife. TH eTemeperance 2 just didn't appeal to me because the plastic dimpled handle got lost and the knife just got to fancy.
SO yes i would loke to see the temperance 1 back in Salt (with a black handle please!)
Again it was one of the very few Spyderco fixed blades that you could get in PE & SE both. Every hunting and fishing trip I take both the PE & SE TEMP 1 and they both get used a lot. Even with a VG-10 blade they perform nicely.
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That's one awesome list "yowzer"!!! I can't argue with any of those and you got a high five from me all the way! The full SE Catcherman is still a model I use a lot. A new one in full SE would be super awesome. Or even a new one in CE would be nice too.
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A Flat Iron built on the Atlantic handle; flat grind LC200/Magnacut?
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That is confirms my thoughts about the Temp 1 . I think this could be a nice cost savings compared to a full tang set up . Another thought from the production side a PE Jumpmaster is already produced only thing would be to change from SE to PE and it would be a done deal . So there are two different ways to approach the idea . At least it’s a good discussion ! MG2JD Spydo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:57 amNo I don't believe the TEMPERANCE 1 is a full tang>> however the late Cliff Stamp said on one of his posts that the way it was constructed was good that it wasn't even necessary. He said that the TEMP 1 was constructed so well that no one with normal usage should ever have a problem with it.Manixguy@1994 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:43 amThe Jumpmaster is a full tang fixed blade and I am not sure if Temperance is or similar to the way a Moran is built . I would love to see a plain edge in that model along with a Salt Dyad . I have been looking hard at a Aqua Salt . All great knives . MG2
I've been using both my PE & SE TEMP 1 models a lot and even on some demanding jobs ever since I bought them all the way back in 2004-05. Never a problem.
I"m not at all saying anything bad about the Jumpmaster. I was thinking that the TEMP 1 with a corrosion proof blade would make a great but yet affordable fixed blade for camping, hunting, fishing ect. If you all ever owned one you would love it, guaranteed.
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Iirc the Temperance was indeed not full tang. I think 2/3 of the handle. Because the handle was casted around the tang it would have been almost impossible to crack the handle by human force alone ( not including battoning or sub zero temperatuur). My dog that chewed on my handle was a big rottweiler and it really didn't break the handle just made it very sharp and pointy beyond repair. This dog could chew thru concrete so i was really impressed. Sadly I never found a replacement. I really liked the fact that the dimples made it easy to change from heaven to earth grip in MBC while the knife itself just looked like a non threathening kitchen implement. Been looking for one sporadically on Ebay but never found one again.
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Schempp Rock Salt could make a return. I'd buy one this time around.
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I would really enjoy a GB2 Salt. But while I'm wishing, I'd like to try a Rock Salt in Magnacut....
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Again Jim I've used both of my TEMP 1 models on some really demanding jobs over the years and I've not seen any signs of any of them getting loose or failing in any way. And like I stated earlier the late, great Cliff Stamp reviewed the TEMP 1 on this forum a couple of times saying how much he liked it. Oh Sure it would be somewhat stronger if it was a full tang design and maybe if they did another version of it they could conceivably make a TEMP 1 design in full tang.Jim Malone wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:25 amIirc the Temperance was indeed not full tang. I think 2/3 of the handle. Because the handle was casted around the tang it would have been almost impossible to crack the handle by human force alone ( not including battoning or sub zero temperatuur). My dog that chewed on my handle was a big rottweiler and it really didn't break the handle just made it very sharp and pointy beyond repair. This dog could chew thru concrete so i was really impressed. Sadly I never found a replacement. I really liked the fact that the dimples made it easy to change from heaven to earth grip in MBC while the knife itself just looked like a non threathening kitchen implement. Been looking for one sporadically on Ebay but never found one again.
However I can't really see any reason why they would need to change any part of the overall design. I even field dressed a 37 pound snapping turtle and used both the PE and SE TEMP 1 models to accomplish it. And let me tell you all you won't find a job that the TEMP 1 can't handle.
Yeah bring back the TEMP 1 with a nuclear yellow handle ( or any other nuclear color for that matter) and make it with a LC200N blade or any other steel they might want>> and use another TEK-LOK Sheath or something similar and it would do very well in the Salt Series I'm 100% sure.
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There are a handful I have been very interested in for awhile. Hopefully some or all are in the queue!
1. Spyderhawk Salt 2 in H1 SE (with updated Pacific Salt 2 handle and added thumb ramp jimping)
2. Catcherman Salt 2 in H1 SE, PE, and CE (with updated bi-directional FRN handle, updated clip, and added thumb ramp
jimping)
3. Cricket LW 2 Salt in H1 SE (with updated bi-directional FRN handle, updated clip, and added thumb ramp
and ricasso/choil jimping)
4. Lil' Matriarch Salt in H1 SE
Now on the opposite end, for hypothetical fantasy models... :)
1. Dodofly in H1 SE
2. Cricketfly in H1 SE
3. Dodobug in H1 SE
4. Cricketbug in H1 SE
1. Spyderhawk Salt 2 in H1 SE (with updated Pacific Salt 2 handle and added thumb ramp jimping)
2. Catcherman Salt 2 in H1 SE, PE, and CE (with updated bi-directional FRN handle, updated clip, and added thumb ramp
jimping)
3. Cricket LW 2 Salt in H1 SE (with updated bi-directional FRN handle, updated clip, and added thumb ramp
and ricasso/choil jimping)
4. Lil' Matriarch Salt in H1 SE
Now on the opposite end, for hypothetical fantasy models... :)
1. Dodofly in H1 SE
2. Cricketfly in H1 SE
3. Dodobug in H1 SE
4. Cricketbug in H1 SE