rockjumper

[ladybug93]

i just searched for rockjumper and looked through 41 pages of results. there were only three pictures of the rockjumper on the forum that were searchable. that's crazy to me.

rockjumper owners, please show us some pictures here. in hand, in use, compared to similar sized knives, etc. let's see them!

feel free to give your impressions compared to other knives too.

[Evil D]

It's a search engine thing. I've posted a few pics lol.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87727

[ladybug93]

It's a search engine thing. I've posted a few pics lol.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87727

i remember that now. super helpful! i still think we should be hearing about this model more.

[Evil D]

It's a search engine thing. I've posted a few pics lol.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87727

i remember that now. super helpful! i still think we should be hearing about this model more.

It's definitely in my top group of users, I just had it out tonight cutting some stuff. I think if I hadn't been caught up testing other knives since it's release it probably would have been part of my primary carry alongside my Caribbean and Autonomy. I'm very anxious to see the Cliff Jumper and Sequoia.

[Manixguy@1994]

Evil D this is the first time I have heard about the Cliff Jumper ? Would this possibly be a larger version of the Rock Jumper ? MG2

[ladybug93]

Evil D this is the first time I have heard about the Cliff Jumper ? Would this possibly be a larger version of the Rock Jumper ? MG2

sal told us there was an xl rockjumper coming eventually and also that there'd be a leaf shape version of each.

[Manixguy@1994]

Thank you ! Double good news ! MG2

[sal]

The Leaf Jumper is in-the-works. The Sequoia (leaf) and Cliff Jumper (Warncliffe) have not yet been put into queue. I have hand made prototypes, but I am waiting for results and reactions to the Rock and Leaf Jumpers.

New models are taking longer to bring to market due to backlogs of current models. FRN tooling is expensive and I'd like to hedge my bet with some feedback.

sal

[TomAiello]

Wharnie sounds like a must-have to me.

[olywa]

I'm pinin' for that Leaf Jumper. The Rock Jumper ergos are superb. It's a knife that practically begs to be put to work.

[Wartstein]

The Leaf Jumper is in-the-works.....

Sal, actually I am pretty sure you said already that the Leaf Jumper will have the same blade length as the Rock Jumper.

But should I recall this wrongly: Any chance the Leaf Jumper will get a longer, handlefilling blade?
For one the shorter Rockjumper blade is still longer than the legal 3" limit, so the I guess the up to 7 possible more mm in length would not matter in that regard.
Pius with a longer blade it would really, as described in the "Byte", "pack as much cutting edge as possible" in the handle.

I more than respect your approach of giving a certain blade just the best handle possible, without thinking of blade to handle ratio. Amazing designs came to life following this approach!

But having one or a few Spydies in the lineup that still focus of a long edge in a very compact package is also not a bad thing imho.

[Wartstein]

... I happen to have comparison pics of (from bottom to top) RockJumper, Stretch 1 ("one"!) and Endela, perhaps interesting for some.

(Keep in mind: As always, just by perspective, the knife at the bottom looks a bit larger- , the one a the top a bit smaller than in reality).

[Evil D]

The Leaf Jumper is in-the-works. The Sequoia (leaf) and Cliff Jumper (Warncliffe) have not yet been put into queue. I have hand made prototypes, but I am waiting for results and reactions to the Rock and Leaf Jumpers.

New models are taking longer to bring to market due to backlogs of current models. FRN tooling is expensive and I'd like to hedge my bet with some feedback.

sal

I think they're winners. It just seems like the next generation in ergonomics for a back lock to me, a natural progression. If more non 50/50 choil knives were designed this way I'd sure buy more, it completely changes my opinion of the lock because I associate back locks so much with the ricasso's dead space that I dislike. It seems to me the biggest complaints so far haven't even been about the design itself but more about the lack of jimping and a Boye dent, and if anything else maybe squeeze a bit more blade length into the existing handle size since the blade is already longer than the closest 3 inch legal size so it may as well be as big as it can be within the established handle.

One reason I keep coming back around to that blade length thing is because last night when I was using it I got to thinking about the handle, and I realized that it's just about the smallest non choil handle I can use that is still an honest full grip handle. It's no more and no less than I absolutely need, so if I can then also get as much blade into that handle as possible it'll be a package that maximizes size on both ends. If you hadn't already used the name "Efficient" I think this knife would be a far more deserving model for the name.

[Wartstein]

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....., and if anything else maybe squeeze a bit more blade length into the existing handle size since the blade is already longer than the closest 3 inch legal size so it may as well be as big as it can be within the established handle.

One reason I keep coming back around to that blade length thing is because last night when I was using it I got to thinking about the handle, and I realized that it's just about the smallest non choil handle I can use that is still an honest full grip handle. It's no more and no less than I absolutely need, so if I can then also get as much blade into that handle as possible it'll be a package that maximizes size on both ends. If you hadn't already used the name "Efficient" I think this knife would be a far more deserving model for the name.

... if you read my post two above yours: I think we almost literally 100% agree on the blade length thing concerning the Rock-/Leafjumper...

[Ramonade]

@Evil D : when you mention a 50/50 choil, do you refer to the middle ground between a full finger choil and an edge that start directly after the handle ends? Like for example a 50/50 choil would be what we could find on a Delica or Endura ?

Thanks,
Robin

[Evil D]

@Evil D : when you mention a 50/50 choil, do you refer to the middle ground between a full finger choil and an edge that start directly after the handle ends? Like for example a 50/50 choil would be what we could find on a Delica or Endura ?

Thanks,
Robin

I'm referring to the part of a blade that's shaped to be used as part of the grip, such as on a Native 5 for example. By comparison a Delica has a ricasso in that spot, and while you can technically put your finger there and use it in the same way, I don't care to do that and I'd rather it were an actual finger choil or be designed like the Rock Jumper where the ricasso is hidden by the handle.

[Ramonade]

Thanks for the answer, so a 50/50 choil is a choil formed by both the blade and the handle, like on the Native 5.

Or, if I'm wrong , I'm stupid ! Language barrier can be a thing even tho im fluent in english.

[Evil D]

Thanks for the answer, so a 50/50 choil is a choil formed by both the blade and the handle, like on the Native 5.

Or, if I'm wrong , I'm stupid ! Language barrier can be a thing even tho im fluent in english.

You're absolutely correct

[Manixguy@1994]

I really like the handle design ,it reminds me of my Superleaf . I will be ordering the Rock Jumper in the near future just for that reason . Hope these knives progress into production. Regards MG2

[Cl1ff]

Count me as another who’s a fan of this model!

I’m generally rather critical of design, despite my actually pretty lax “in hand preferences”, because I like optimization/solving problems and often sketch all kinds of things myself.
It probably comes from my intense interest in science and anatomy or, to a slightly lesser extent, art. “How can I translate this biological adaptation into a well functioning tool?” is a question I often end up pondering.

I think the Rockumper is a quintessential example of really optimizing a backlock pocket knife to fit a certain set of needs.

I’m saying all of this when I don’t even own one yet, but it’s from the perspective of someone who’s in-hand reference point is an old serrated Endura. The Rockjumper has everything I like about that knife and nothing I don’t like.
Especially from a climbing point of view. I’m always climbing trees with a pocket knife and understand what I like during that activity.

It’s very easy for me to appreciate what Sal’s done with the knife. Nothing is closer to appeasing my mind’s idea of good design as well as my hand’s “knowledge” of what it wants and doesn’t want in a knife during cutting.

For that, I’m just as interested in what my brain and hands will have to say about other possible varieties of this knife family.

Also, I super want a Zome Rockjumper that looks like a climbing gym wall. And maybe Leafjumper that’s got Zome leaves? Epic opportunity to do some cool things like that.