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Sal, I was wandering if there may ever be a Sprint run of the Vallotton. Its such a very high quality beautiful folder. If so, would M4 be a possibility? Thank you sir. And, Congratz on Sage Marine!!
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they have d/a modified ones.they work amazing.I would like a sprint also but maybe a smaller version.I love vg10 to me its just the best all around stainless.im a chef and all my knives are vg10'.so easy to sharpen to a extremely sharp edge.but I will take whatever new crazy steel he would use.have you seen the d/a vollotton?I would lovr a smaller version d/a also.
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endgame wrote:they have d/a modified ones.they work amazing.I would like a sprint also but maybe a smaller version.I love vg10 to me its just the best all around stainless.im a chef and all my knives are vg10'.so easy to sharpen to a extremely sharp edge.but I will take whatever new crazy steel he would use.have you seen the d/a vollotton?I would lovr a smaller version d/a also.
Yeah, the d.a.'s are awesome. Butch does the conversions himself, but at $400 its tough.
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VG-10 is a decent chef's knife steel because maintenance, price, and corrosion resistance work in its favor. However, for a pocket knife, price isn't as much a factor because the amount of steel required is far smaller...IMO, of course.

I'd purchase a Vallotton with a different steel, I'm not a huge S30V guy, either.
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CruWear Vallotton with white or light grey polished G10 handles...the overall construction is DEFINITELY robust enough to justify it.
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I love the Vallotton, but personally if a model were to get a "supersteel" I'd prefer a higher performance, more usable model. No sense in getting a Vallotton in CruWear if it can't slice an apple that great and I don't want to use it for fear of ruining it's beauty.

Now a Vallotton in something more showy like damascus or damasteel? I'd buy one in a heartbeat
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Why wouldn't a CruWear Vallotton be able to slice an Apple? I've been VERY happy with both of my CruWear models and have used both (The Military even more so) for food preparation, and also for cutting up cardboard and plastic etc. I'm sure the hollow grind of the Vallotton would still work, but it would also make a great classy work knife (As it does already), but with some more flair and toughness.
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3rdGenRigger wrote:Why wouldn't a CruWear Vallotton be able to slice an Apple? I've been VERY happy with both of my CruWear models and have used both (The Military even more so) for food preparation, and also for cutting up cardboard and plastic etc. I'm sure the hollow grind of the Vallotton would still work, but it would also make a great classy work knife (As it does already), but with some more flair and toughness.
Nothing to do with the CruWear, I was just using that as an example of how the Vallotton has a very thick blade with a deep hollow grind. Not the best cutting performer.
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M4!
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Strong-Dog wrote:
3rdGenRigger wrote:Why wouldn't a CruWear Vallotton be able to slice an Apple? I've been VERY happy with both of my CruWear models and have used both (The Military even more so) for food preparation, and also for cutting up cardboard and plastic etc. I'm sure the hollow grind of the Vallotton would still work, but it would also make a great classy work knife (As it does already), but with some more flair and toughness.
Nothing to do with the CruWear, I was just using that as an example of how the Vallotton has a very thick blade with a deep hollow grind. Not the best at cutting performer.
That depends entirely on what you're cutting. It would be less effective on an Apple than a CruWear Millie or Manix2, but the thick blade stock and robustness would certainly be interesting on the Vallotton IMO.
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3rdGenRigger wrote:
Strong-Dog wrote:
3rdGenRigger wrote:Why wouldn't a CruWear Vallotton be able to slice an Apple? I've been VERY happy with both of my CruWear models and have used both (The Military even more so) for food preparation, and also for cutting up cardboard and plastic etc. I'm sure the hollow grind of the Vallotton would still work, but it would also make a great classy work knife (As it does already), but with some more flair and toughness.
Nothing to do with the CruWear, I was just using that as an example of how the Vallotton has a very thick blade with a deep hollow grind. Not the best at cutting performer.
That depends entirely on what you're cutting. It would be less effective on an Apple than a CruWear Millie or Manix2, but the thick blade stock and robustness would certainly be interesting on the Vallotton IMO.
I agree, very interesting as a more "hard-use" type knife. However, how many people would really buy such a nice piece like the Vallotton, with it's very narrow and thick handle, for actual "hard-use"?

On the other hand, since I have owned a Vallotton and know that the grind, thickness, and narrowness of the blade makes it a relatively bad cutting performer for EDC tasks, I would much rather see a more beautiful steel like damascus in it since it already is designed as more of a show piece than a work-horse.
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I would kind of have to agree with Strong dog on this one. ^. There are too many other models that would benefit more from both a performance and sales standpoint from a sprint. My 2¢ anyway. Probably a biased opinion though since I don't really care for the shape or the specs of the valloton.
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Strong-Dog wrote:
3rdGenRigger wrote:
Strong-Dog wrote:
3rdGenRigger wrote:Why wouldn't a CruWear Vallotton be able to slice an Apple? I've been VERY happy with both of my CruWear models and have used both (The Military even more so) for food preparation, and also for cutting up cardboard and plastic etc. I'm sure the hollow grind of the Vallotton would still work, but it would also make a great classy work knife (As it does already), but with some more flair and toughness.
Nothing to do with the CruWear, I was just using that as an example of how the Vallotton has a very thick blade with a deep hollow grind. Not the best at cutting performer.
That depends entirely on what you're cutting. It would be less effective on an Apple than a CruWear Millie or Manix2, but the thick blade stock and robustness would certainly be interesting on the Vallotton IMO.
I agree, very interesting as a more "hard-use" type knife. However, how many people would really buy such a nice piece like the Vallotton, with it's very narrow and thick handle, for actual "hard-use"?

On the other hand, since I have owned a Vallotton and know that the grind, thickness, and narrowness of the blade makes it a relatively bad cutting performer for EDC tasks, I would much rather see a more beautiful steel like damascus in it since it already is designed as more of a show piece than a work-horse.
Yeah, Damascus would look really nice.
But, as far as performance, I've found the Vallotton to be an excellent cutter, especially so with tip work. Not the best slicer though.
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MacLaren wrote:
Strong-Dog wrote:
3rdGenRigger wrote:
Strong-Dog wrote: Nothing to do with the CruWear, I was just using that as an example of how the Vallotton has a very thick blade with a deep hollow grind. Not the best at cutting performer.
That depends entirely on what you're cutting. It would be less effective on an Apple than a CruWear Millie or Manix2, but the thick blade stock and robustness would certainly be interesting on the Vallotton IMO.
I agree, very interesting as a more "hard-use" type knife. However, how many people would really buy such a nice piece like the Vallotton, with it's very narrow and thick handle, for actual "hard-use"?

On the other hand, since I have owned a Vallotton and know that the grind, thickness, and narrowness of the blade makes it a relatively bad cutting performer for EDC tasks, I would much rather see a more beautiful steel like damascus in it since it already is designed as more of a show piece than a work-horse.
Yeah, Damascus would look really nice.
But, as far as performance, I've found the Vallotton to be an excellent cutter, especially so with tip work. Not the best slicer though.
Really? Huh. Cutting more stuff like string or paracord, or cardboard? I just know that once the narrow blade gets into whatever you're cutting, it tends to bind.
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Well yeah, of course application is everything but, from opening up toys for the little one which requires tip work to cutting cardboard boxes Ive been pleased. Then again I'm easily pleased because to me, they're just a pocket knife. I don't get too wound up about one have to be perfect in every category. But, like you say, ya get in deep she will start binding. its not something I would want as a slicer.
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MacLaren wrote:Well yeah, of course application is everything but, from opening up toys for the little one which requires tip work to cutting cardboard boxes Ive been pleased. Then again I'm easily pleased because to me, they're just a pocket knife. I don't get too wound up about one have to be perfect in every category. But, like you say, ya get in deep she will start binding. its not something I would want as a slicer.
Agreed. I'm guilty of this a lot of the time, making decisions based on trying to be the best in every category while honestly, it will normally only be used for smallish tasks.
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I would love that vg10 cored damascus.that woukd be sweeeet!spyderco vg10 damascus is beautiifull.I love my caly ,delica,stretch and endura damascus.paterns are very crips and unique.plus cuts like vg10.I would love the old blade polished micarta pershian with the vg10 damascus blade on it.I would kill for that!lol
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There are so many more models deserving of a Sprint. Valloton is fairly new model.

I'd like to see a Barong first.
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Anything is possible, but we have no plans for a Vallotin sprint at this time.

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sal wrote:Anything is possible, but we have no plans for a Vallotin sprint at this time.

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Thank you Sal.
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