How are you sharpening your SpyderEdges?
How are you sharpening your SpyderEdges?
I'm currently sharpening plain edges with a Wicked Edge, which can't sharpen serrated edges. Due to a minor motor disability, I can't sharpen freehand. Because of that, I've been avoiding buying serrated blades (a la SpyderEdge). This is, obviously, somewhat annoying. How are you guys sharpening your SpyderEdges?
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Hi williaty!
Another vote for the SM here.
Have always done my SE blades with my SM with fantastic results. :cool:
Regarding that disability, have you ever tried the SM before? If so, how are your results with PE?
Another choice would be to send your SE blades to Golden to let them sharp it for you. :spyder:
Another vote for the SM here.
Have always done my SE blades with my SM with fantastic results. :cool:
Regarding that disability, have you ever tried the SM before? If so, how are your results with PE?
Another choice would be to send your SE blades to Golden to let them sharp it for you. :spyder:
701 Profiles: The ultimate serration sharpener
Well It's high time that my continued preaching the Gospel of the 701 Profile kit is starting to pay off and draw some attention :D Once a guy learns the technique of using the Spyderco 701 Profile kit to sharpen Spyderedges after that hardly anything else makes much sense at all.OldHoosier62 wrote:701 Profile stones by Spyderco.
Now I'm not at all trying to slam anyone who uses the 204 Sharpmaker to sharpen their serrations with because the unit will do a decent job if you follow Sal's instructions from the very informative video that used to come with the 204 Sharpmaker. But the problem I have with the 204 Sharpmaker is that it rounds off and somewhat deforms the original spike & scallop pattern of the serrations and the way they came from the factory.
I have found that once you learn to use the 701 PRofiles and fit the radii in the scallops properly and use the correct fitting corner for the spike part of the serration pattern you can keep the original profile the way it came from the factory. I am however hoping to learn more about the Goldenstone and how it can be used on the Spyderedged serrations>> at this time I don't find it to be as efficient as the Profile kit but I'm willing to learn more about it. But I'll probably always use my 701 Profiles most of the time anyway because of the ease of use and overall convenience. They are so extremly handy and easy to use I do hope they come back to the main line up and be offered in more grits as well.
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I havent been able to find the 701 profiles anywhere, does anyone have a line on a set of these? What is the hives feeling on the 400f set?
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Sharpmaker for me as well. Amazing sharpener for the money
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The 400 series of Spyderco ceramic files is more for small, intricate work. Now I do use mine on occasion but not much on knives unless I'm working on a folder that's having problems.farnorthdan wrote:I havent been able to find the 701 profiles anywhere, does anyone have a line on a set of these? What is the hives feeling on the 400f set?
The Spyderco 701 Profiles have been discontinued for a couple of years now but I'm holding out hope that with all the talk we generate and the growing demand for more portable sharpening tools I'm hoping not only will Spyderco make them available again but also offer them in more grits as well. But they are an excellent tool for sharpening serrations period.
They do show up on Ebay and other Forums occassionally. And you might just get lucky and find a dealer that still has a set of them on the shelf that didn't sell yet. But I'm hoping they will be back in the next year or so>> we need them desperately!!!
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Howes still has the fine stone listed on their site, it may not be the medium, but it's better than nothing.farnorthdan wrote:I havent been able to find the 701 profiles anywhere, does anyone have a line on a set of these? What is the hives feeling on the 400f set?
To the subject at hand. The 701 profiles are my portable sharpening tool of choice. I carry the pair with me every day and twice on Sunday. I especially find them useful on serrations and the obvious recurve, reverse S, and hawkbill shapes!
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Yeah, I've had a Sharpmaker for years. One of the old single-angle ones that came in the cordura fabric pouch. I initially got OK results with it but as my motor control got worse, so did my results with the Sharpmaker. I still have it, but only my wife can use it now. I'm not sure what you're referring to with "PE", but if you mean the Wicked Edge, I'm starting to get satisfactory results with it as I get the process figured out.LC Kid wrote:Regarding that disability, have you ever tried the SM before? If so, how are your results with PE?
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Hallelujah!!! Brother !!! You see the Light for sure :cool: The 701 Profiles just have to return to the main line up> Spyderco Factory I do hope you are monitoring this thread. I've yet to turn someone on to the 701 Profiles that literally didn't like them. If you're not going to give us more grits with the GOLDENSTONE then please consider giving us the 701 Profiles in 4 grits. Machinists, hobbyists, Knife people and mechanics will love a 701 Profile kit with 4 grits.xceptnl wrote:Howes still has the fine stone listed on their site, it may not be the medium, but it's better than nothing.farnorthdan wrote:I havent been able to find the 701 profiles anywhere, does anyone have a line on a set of these? What is the hives feeling on the 400f set?
To the subject at hand. The 701 profiles are my portable sharpening tool of choice. I carry the pair with me every day and twice on Sunday. I especially find them useful on serrations and the obvious recurve, reverse S, and hawkbill shapes!
Not only do the 701 Profiles do a factory-like sharpening job on Spyderedges and other serrated blades but like Xceptnl just said they are truly thee tool to have for Reverse S, Hawkbills ( especially plain edged), and other non conventional designs like the Captain, Civilian and Matriarch models. You see you all just didn't market them right the first go around. But that can be corrected easily. Not to mention they are convenient to travel with and to take on jobs. Case Closed :D
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Sorry JD, I've had mine for many years....but I agree wholeheartedly in your quest to get Sal & Co. to bring them back. They are head and shoulders above a SM for sharpening a Spyder-edge.JD Spydo wrote:Well It's high time that my continued preaching the Gospel of the 701 Profile kit is starting to pay off and draw some attention :D Once a guy learns the technique of using the Spyderco 701 Profile kit to sharpen Spyderedges after that hardly anything else makes much sense at all.OldHoosier62 wrote:701 Profile stones by Spyderco.
Now I'm not at all trying to slam anyone who uses the 204 Sharpmaker to sharpen their serrations with because the unit will do a decent job if you follow Sal's instructions from the very informative video that used to come with the 204 Sharpmaker. But the problem I have with the 204 Sharpmaker is that it rounds off and somewhat deforms the original spike & scallop pattern of the serrations and the way they came from the factory.
I have found that once you learn to use the 701 PRofiles and fit the radii in the scallops properly and use the correct fitting corner for the spike part of the serration pattern you can keep the original profile the way it came from the factory. I am however hoping to learn more about the Goldenstone and how it can be used on the Spyderedged serrations>> at this time I don't find it to be as efficient as the Profile kit but I'm willing to learn more about it. But I'll probably always use my 701 Profiles most of the time anyway because of the ease of use and overall convenience. They are so extremly handy and easy to use I do hope they come back to the main line up and be offered in more grits as well.
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Yeah Brother I've had mine for a few years as well and the reason I got my first set had nothing to do with sharpening serrations either. At the time I was looking for a file to use in the machine shop I where I was working at the time and I wanted a fine ceramic file for deburring metal that I was machining. Proper deburring is kind of tricky and the 701 Profiles are great for that job as well. I actually by accident discovered how good they are at sharpening Spyderedges.OldHoosier62 wrote:Sorry JD, I've had mine for many years....but I agree wholeheartedly in your quest to get Sal & Co. to bring them back. They are head and shoulders above a SM for sharpening a Spyder-edge.JD Spydo wrote:OldHoosier62 wrote:701 Profile stones by Spyderco.
But like the other Brother said they are also great for plain edged Hawkbills, Recurves, and Reverse S blades as well. But don't stop there because I believe I can sharpen just about any kind of blade or edged tool with the 701 Profiles. I do hope that Spyderco does indeed bring them back and with more grits to select from. There are so many uses for them that I"m surprised that they don't sell as well as the Sharpmaker or even better.
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My favorite tool for sharpening my H1 spyderedges is a dremel with the thin felt wheel or bullet tip. Rouge of choice and they get super sharp with almost zero effort.
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Know what you mean, bought mine as a tool for my pistol and revolver repair/rebuild work. Then figured out a 1000 other things they are handy for.JD Spydo wrote:Yeah Brother I've had mine for a few years as well and the reason I got my first set had nothing to do with sharpening serrations either. At the time I was looking for a file to use in the machine shop I where I was working at the time and I wanted a fine ceramic file for deburring metal that I was machining. Proper deburring is kind of tricky and the 701 Profiles are great for that job as well. I actually by accident discovered how good they are at sharpening Spyderedges.OldHoosier62 wrote:Sorry JD, I've had mine for many years....but I agree wholeheartedly in your quest to get Sal & Co. to bring them back. They are head and shoulders above a SM for sharpening a Spyder-edge.JD Spydo wrote:OldHoosier62 wrote:701 Profile stones by Spyderco.
But like the other Brother said they are also great for plain edged Hawkbills, Recurves, and Reverse S blades as well. But don't stop there because I believe I can sharpen just about any kind of blade or edged tool with the 701 Profiles. I do hope that Spyderco does indeed bring them back and with more grits to select from. There are so many uses for them that I"m surprised that they don't sell as well as the Sharpmaker or even better.
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I use my teeth. Because I'm awesome. That is all.
DMT's Conical diamond & Ceramic sharpening rods
Another tool I use occasionly when sharpening serrated edges is one of DMT's products. Now I usually only use these when the edges have really taken a bad beating. But occasionally I put some of my user Spyderedges to **** and back and sometimes I get chipped teeth and extremely burred scallops. So I go to my diamond DMT conical rods.
I have every grit that they make so I start out with the coarse ones and work my way to the fine and extra-fine sometimes. But usually when I get the really beat up edges back in shape then I immediately go to my Spyderco 701 Profiles to put the finished edges in place.
Now DMT also has some ceramic conical rods as well and I do use them some occasionally as well. When you use a Spyderedge for a tough job you never know what type of sharpening job you're going to be faced with. I really like the concept of the conical sharpening rods because they do give you a lot of versatility when working on serrated edges.
I have every grit that they make so I start out with the coarse ones and work my way to the fine and extra-fine sometimes. But usually when I get the really beat up edges back in shape then I immediately go to my Spyderco 701 Profiles to put the finished edges in place.
Now DMT also has some ceramic conical rods as well and I do use them some occasionally as well. When you use a Spyderedge for a tough job you never know what type of sharpening job you're going to be faced with. I really like the concept of the conical sharpening rods because they do give you a lot of versatility when working on serrated edges.
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Are the DMT rods very similar to the 701 profiles? If not, what would be the current product closest to them?
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The answer is NO. >>> The DMT Conical rods are truly "cone" shaped. They are shapped like a elongated cone from top to bottom. They do not have the versatile sharpening capabilities that the 701 Profiles have. They really only fit into the scallops for the most part. But they do serve a purpose because with the diamond abrasive they do tend to remove stock from beat up serrations better than ceramic could.DougC-3 wrote:Are the DMT rods very similar to the 701 profiles? If not, what would be the current product closest to them?
The DMT diamond Conical rods are still available from what I'm told even though I've had mine for at least 5 or 6 years. They were at the time available in 5 different grits including the ceramic ones as well.
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Though I love my 701s for this type of work, the DMT aligner set for curved and serrated blades did serve me well for years also. They can still be found with some effort.


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