Well, I was able to snag a discount Shabaria from SMKW (eknifeworks.com) for $45, and after dancing in the street for a couple of days, it showed up tonite. After playing with the blade (keep away you darn pinkie finger! it's sharp!!), I noticed something that kind of gave my heart a little pitter-patter.
When you open the blade to the lock-engaged position, the liner-lock engages on a spot on the canted ramp (it's not straight, but angled) with an authoritative thunk! Well, I noticed that if I pushed on the back of the blade a little bit, there was some movement. After a couple of minutes to testing, I found that the culprit was the liner lock. The goshdarn thing was moving!!! And it was moving towards the disengage side of the handle!! After a few more minutes of experimentation (very carefully), I found that I couldn't push on the back of the blade hard enough to disengage it, but truth to tell, I really wasn't using all of my strength, mostly due to my fear of losing a body part.
I plan on calling the Spydie 1-800 number tomorrow and talking to the dudes down there about it, but I also wanted to see if anyone here had experienced this. I've had other liner locks, both Spydie's and other companies, and never experienced this before. Any help/comments would be appreciated. I'm really hoping that I got a freak model.
Oh yeah, it's staying in the box till I get this straightened out.
AB
Shabaria Question/Problem?
I called up the 1-800 Spydie this morning and talked to someone in customer service about my Shabaria questions. He basically said that this is normal and not to worry about it unless I started using the Shab with martial bladescraft (which I don't plan on doing), because that's the only way he saw that pressure could be applied to the spine (ex. blocks and such) enough to exaggerate the situation. He asked me if I had any other liner lock knives, which I do (a Cricket and a couple of Kershaws), but they don't have the liner play, and have rock solid lockups.
He said that if I wanted I could send it in to Spyderco and they would look at it, but he didn't think there was anything that they could do about it. To be frank, there's no way I'm going to use this as an EDC, because I feel that this issue is still hanging over it. And if I don't have confidence in a knife, I don't carry it.
I hate to sound petulant or have anyone get the wrong impression, but this is the only Spyderco knife that I have owned that I have felt the slightest bit of dissatisfaction or non-confidence in (well, aside from that POS BRK Native, which I don't really blade on Spyderco). Unless I hear that someone has had the same problem I had and had it fixed by sending it in, I'm gonna wipe it down with a Tuff, box it up, and put it away.
That's really a shame, too, because I really love the blade and really get a kick out of the open back handle (it's the engineer in me, I love new stuff and non-traditional approaches). Anywho, thanks much for the feedback, and I hope that it keeps on coming in.
From what everyone is saying, my best bet would be to send it in to get it looked at. I'll probably do that next week, cause I gotta fly out of town this weekend (must leave Spydies at home...wahhh).
AB
He said that if I wanted I could send it in to Spyderco and they would look at it, but he didn't think there was anything that they could do about it. To be frank, there's no way I'm going to use this as an EDC, because I feel that this issue is still hanging over it. And if I don't have confidence in a knife, I don't carry it.
I hate to sound petulant or have anyone get the wrong impression, but this is the only Spyderco knife that I have owned that I have felt the slightest bit of dissatisfaction or non-confidence in (well, aside from that POS BRK Native, which I don't really blade on Spyderco). Unless I hear that someone has had the same problem I had and had it fixed by sending it in, I'm gonna wipe it down with a Tuff, box it up, and put it away.
That's really a shame, too, because I really love the blade and really get a kick out of the open back handle (it's the engineer in me, I love new stuff and non-traditional approaches). Anywho, thanks much for the feedback, and I hope that it keeps on coming in.
From what everyone is saying, my best bet would be to send it in to get it looked at. I'll probably do that next week, cause I gotta fly out of town this weekend (must leave Spydies at home...wahhh).
AB
browad, I highly suggest that you send it back to Spyderco. When a folder is open and in the locked position, it shouldn't have any play, whatsoever.
I don't know who you may have talked to at Spyderco, but you may want to try calling again and asking for Mike, in Warranty and Repair.
They will take care of your problem....or send you a new one. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
I just sent in my old GIN-1 Civilian for some cracks, or slight chipping of the steel, at the pivot point. There must have been some sort of real defect in that Civvie, because Mike and the <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> crew sent me a NIB Civilian SE to replace the old one!!! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Survive, Adapt, and Overcome...
Edited by - KBR on 10/17/2002 8:29:38 PM
I don't know who you may have talked to at Spyderco, but you may want to try calling again and asking for Mike, in Warranty and Repair.
They will take care of your problem....or send you a new one. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
I just sent in my old GIN-1 Civilian for some cracks, or slight chipping of the steel, at the pivot point. There must have been some sort of real defect in that Civvie, because Mike and the <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> crew sent me a NIB Civilian SE to replace the old one!!! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Survive, Adapt, and Overcome...
Edited by - KBR on 10/17/2002 8:29:38 PM
Hey Browad back from checking my own Shab. I was surprised to find that my Shab did the same thing. I am confident in the lock though. At best with the shape of the blade very slim in slender and the shape of the handle "hourglass" you can't abuse this knife, I think it is more a presentation knife. I think it will become quite collectable seeing the circumstances around who made it. The late Mr. Bradichansky. I would have no problem with this as an EDC even though the lock does "flex" I wouldn't say mine moves though. Obviously it will not stand up to say what my Military would. I think it would be fine honestly I would not return mine because it is like that. Hope this helps.
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I just got back into town, and am very thankful for all the thoughts and comments that everyone has been kind enough to post. There seems to be a consensus of opinion that this is probably due to the eccentric pivot point. Well....my next question is what is it and why does it do this? From the name I can kinda guess, but if someone would have the further kindness to either enlighten me further, or point me to a thread that might have already dealt with this, I would be most grateful.
Thanks much,
AB
Thanks much,
AB
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Windwalker
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Browad....
I just checked my older Shabaria and there is no play. In fact, wearing heavy gloves, and keeping fingers out of the way, I "whanged" the back of the open blade on my office chair seat. Soft surface, but solid... the lock did not disengage, even after many tries! (Which is more than I can say for a Gerber Applegate which closes every time!) None of my Spyders are loose, or move at all! Have them check it out... I believe it shouldn't do that....
Windy
Edited by - Windwalker on 10/20/2002 8:40:18 PM
I just checked my older Shabaria and there is no play. In fact, wearing heavy gloves, and keeping fingers out of the way, I "whanged" the back of the open blade on my office chair seat. Soft surface, but solid... the lock did not disengage, even after many tries! (Which is more than I can say for a Gerber Applegate which closes every time!) None of my Spyders are loose, or move at all! Have them check it out... I believe it shouldn't do that....
Windy
Edited by - Windwalker on 10/20/2002 8:40:18 PM
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Hey browad :
( Are you, by chance, in Broward County? )
Your's may be an older Shab, that did have some slight adjustment problem(s); I have the newer one ( mine was produced this year )
and have nery a problem <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Just give Mike Hayes a call at <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> and he'll fix
( guaranteed! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)
ATE <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
( Are you, by chance, in Broward County? )
Your's may be an older Shab, that did have some slight adjustment problem(s); I have the newer one ( mine was produced this year )
and have nery a problem <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Just give Mike Hayes a call at <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> and he'll fix
( guaranteed! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)
ATE <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>