I live in N.Y.C. , what folding knife is legal ?

[chancha807]

I purchased a Spyderco Manix2 XL for work and i did not even think about it being legal for a EDC or not . HELP !!!

[razorsharp]

I purchased a Spyderco Manix2 XL for work and i did not even think about it being legal for a EDC or not . HELP !!!

No folders can be carried, but fixed blades can be. a bit of an eff up on DA vances behalf

[chancha807]

No folders can be carried, but fixed blades can be. a bit of an eff up on DA vances behalf

WWHHAATT!! Really no folders ?! I thought no gravity knives , switch blades , balistic knives or centrifugal were illegal ? **** !!!

[1623]

I was under the impression that the Squeak was legal for carry in New York.

Have they tightened the laws even more?

[chancha807]

I was under the impression that the Squeak was legal for carry in New York.

Have they tightened the laws even more?

From what iam starting to understand it is all up to the cop if he wants to collar you or not especially if it is toward sthe end of his shift , for the overtime.

[Buck Knives I Like]

No folders can be carried, but fixed blades can be. a bit of an eff up on DA vances behalf

I don't know where you got your information from.. You are incorrect and the knife simply can not be locking but it can be folding. You can also carry fixed blades up to 4 inches but i'd keep them at 3.9 just to be safe, also above 4 inches with a fixed blade is a big no no. I live in new york and carry daily, I'd like to think I know my stuff. However it is up to the officer to say if it is dangerous.. for example, in new york if you say you own the UKPK to protect yourself.. thats illegal even though it doesn't lock. If you say you are going to defend yourself with a stick and use it as a weapon that is also illegal. No weapons or objects intended to be used as weapons are allowed on you in this state. However, feel free to carry A non locking folding blade, as I feel the poster who I quoted was misinformed. Just remember its for cutting boxes only! Welcome to new york.

Edit: Oh and to answer your question.. I actually noticed this in a completely different thread of yours, you were asking for another knife suggestion and even there I mentioned I was surprised you carry a manix in NYC, so.. YES your manix is ILLEGAL.. it can actually get you jail time I believe, around a county year I think.. take a UKPK with you to work. You are allowed to keep the manix in your home so don't worry.. but your manix is very illegal when you step out of your house into NYC.

[d.2.the.p]

I may be completely wrong/misinformed, but I'm under the impression that even something non-locking that's one-hand opening like the UKPK, Urban, or even Squeak could potentially get you in trouble. Also, I'm pretty sure anything clipped to your pocket is a huge no-no. Again, I could be totally misinformed. So if you want to stick with a Spydie and remain on the safe side, the Pingo (unclipped in pocket), the Kiwi slip joint, or Grasshopper could work. I usually just carry a my beloved SAK Cadet when I make trips to NYC. That's just me probably being overly cautious, though.

[phillipsted]

You guys should really look into firing DA Vance. Maybe the "Peter Principle" will catch up with him soon and he will "rise to his level of incompetence." Just be careful about electing him to a higher office - he won't be enforcing knife carry laws any more, but he could still do some damage... :cool:

What a tool.

TedP

[Buck Knives I Like]

I may be completely wrong/misinformed, but I'm under the impression that even something non-locking that's one-hand opening like the UKPK, Urban, or even Squeak could potentially get you in trouble. Also, I'm pretty sure anything clipped to your pocket is a huge no-no. Again, I could be totally misinformed. So if you want to stick with a Spydie and remain on the safe side, the Pingo (unclipped in pocket), the Kiwi slip joint, or Grasshopper could work. I usually just carry a my beloved SAK Cadet when I make trips to NYC. That's just me probably being overly cautious, though.

OP, if you are very worried.. contact your local authorities, I'm sure there are enough fat lazy cops in NYC doing nothing right now.. However I'm sure they will tell you the same as I. You can carry non locking folding blades by law, just not with any peace of mind, you can't carry any knife with peace of mind here. I think the only reason " lockers " are illegal is because they can fit them under the gravity knife crap, because they define that as using any gravity force be it a spyder hole or a real gravity knife that locks into place. Im fairly sure they did this because you can easily loosen a pivot and flick any knife out turning it into a " gravity " knife if it locks too, so even regular knives can get you " gravity " knife charges. So remember a knife that is a real " gravity " knife can get you in the same trouble as a spyder hole... and even a knife with a loose pivot if it locks.. ( This poster is also correct who I quoted above, ) A one handed opening non locking blade probably COULD get you in trouble but remember if the cop is smart enough even a knife without a hole can get you in the same amount of trouble, and if the police officer feels you are in the wrong place at the wrong time with a " legal " knife, good luck explaining it to the judge. I believe the reason a one handed unlocking knife tends to be more dangerous to carry in ny is because an officer can say that the hole makes it seem more like a weapon in his or her opinion, but it is not a law that has been written and that is where things gets scary, A legal fixed blade under 4 inches can also get you in trouble if the officer was bored enough and that isn't against the law either... that is the beauty of NY.. they use word play in their laws. However folding blades ARE NOT against the law.. but that doesn't matter in ny. I have heard cases of people defending themselves from attackers with a fixed blade under 4 inches in NYC and not being charged.. but you have to remember, there is no peace of mind when it comes to knives and new york. Honestly calling your local police station and somehow getting their response documented is your best and safest approach here, ( and if you record a voice over the phone in NY without letting the other party know first, that is also against the law. ) * Also if you check with someone, be sure you say nothing about having any knives for defending yourself and if they ask say its for utility only.. for example if they say " Nice little defense blade you got there man, what kind of knife is it? " You reply " Its a utility tool only, oh and none of your **** buisness. " I also forgot to mention that the knives can't be shown when you walk with them, you can't show the pocket clip or any part of any knife sticking out from your pocket.. keep your knife deep inside your pocket.


~Buck

[Ned]

I wouldn't live there for any reason ...I feel sorry for anyone who has to live there. My recommendations is get out while you still can if at all possible.

[arty]

A knife can't be one hand opening and lock. I would bet that an old fashioned liner lock from Queen would be ok ...no way anyone could open that with one hand. Traditional slip joints would be OK in NY.
If I could afford to live in a good neighborhood in Manhattan, I would do it.

[Buck Knives I Like]

So to sum up the truth... " Dangerous " knives aren't allowed... and an officer of the law in the state of new york has the right to call any knife dangerous even if it is " legal " under the written law. So it is based off their peception and this includes where you were when they stopped you when they found the knife on you, what type of " vibe " they feel from you ( if they feel you are up to no good ).. if they believe it is for utility only, and sometimes just what kind of mood they are in... So if you are an anxious looking dude in general be prepared to be harassed.

[Buck Knives I Like]

A knife can't be one hand opening and lock. I would bet that an old fashioned liner lock from Queen would be ok ...no way anyone could open that with one hand. Traditional slip joints would be OK in NY.
If I could afford to live in a good neighborhood in Manhattan, I would do it.

No locking blades are allowed period. Also i am not trying to be rude, but i'd look into some stuff before you give people advice about laws, this man can get jail time over some stupid un-American law or lack there of and it is no joke.

[Buck Knives I Like]

Welcome to new york.

[arty]

No locking blades are allowed period. Also i am not trying to be rude, but i'd look into some stuff before you give people advice about laws, this man can get jail time over some stupid un-American law or lack there of and it is no joke.

Where are the rules spelled out, do you know? I am planning to visit NY in the future, and also want to stay legal.

[Jay_Ev]

I'll give the same answer I usually give when this question is asked. It is best to contact and get answers from local authorities and / or legal counsel. Why do I say this? Because the OP asked one question and got probably 20 different answers.

[Buck Knives I Like]

I'll give the same answer I usually give when this question is asked. It is best to contact and get answers from local authorities and / or legal counsel. Why do I say this? Because the OP asked one question and got probably 20 different answers.

My point was in the state of new york it will vary from officer to officer as to what is acceptable in the current situation. So even after he contacts his local law enforcement like I said before... he still can get some BS and that includes getting charged because it is up to the officer who would happen to run into him what is acceptable on that day and not the officer he is calling whenever. They have it set up so if you break any laws, it is very easy to stack a knife charge to extend your sentence and also the fact that they can obviously get more knife arrests.

[Buck Knives I Like]

Where are the rules spelled out, do you know? I am planning to visit NY in the future, and also want to stay legal.

If you want to be perfect plan on taking a 2-3 inch fixed blade ( there are some bad *** options out there even though that may seem small to some people living in real states ) but carry the fixed blade concealed and if an officer were to stop you for something don't be like I have a knife I have a knife watch out! just speak to him properly and it should never ever get to the point that he would somehow search you for no reason. If somehow he found out or asked that you have a knife on you dont even mention weapon or utility but if he were to question the knife you would simply tell him it is a fixed blade within the legal length and in any way you feel comfortable just make a quick mention how you only see it as a tool, it is all a word game.. as I said they normally use knives to stack charges upon people who are already criminals and commit other crimes, although this does not always stay that way and they do harass good people as well but you should be safe! Because unless you are doing some weird stuff to begin with, a cop should never really be in YOUR pockets out of all the people in NYC..

Edit: and honestly I would recommend not even mentioning utility unless the officer tried to take the knife or started to question your integrity over it then I would mention utility. However! Unless you are a shady guy if it is legal they should assume it isn't a weapon unless as I said before you act odd.

The only reason I would recommend doing it this " extra safe " way, is simply to avoid being detained by the police even if you aren't charged they can still mess up your day, or your week.. or your trip to NYC, they can also mess up your life with a charge if the stars were aligned just right. That is simply why I am so cautious, being that new york doesn't care if they ruin your record with one charge for some knife even if you are a good person.

[chancha807]

I don't know where you got your information from.. You are incorrect and the knife simply can not be locking but it can be folding. You can also carry fixed blades up to 4 inches but i'd keep them at 3.9 just to be safe, also above 4 inches with a fixed blade is a big no no. I live in new york and carry daily, I'd like to think I know my stuff. However it is up to the officer to say if it is dangerous.. for example, in new york if you say you own the UKPK to protect yourself.. thats illegal even though it doesn't lock. If you say you are going to defend yourself with a stick and use it as a weapon that is also illegal. No weapons or objects intended to be used as weapons are allowed on you in this state. However, feel free to carry A non locking folding blade, as I feel the poster who I quoted was misinformed. Just remember its for cutting boxes only! Welcome to new york.

Edit: Oh and to answer your question.. I actually noticed this in a completely different thread of yours, you were asking for another knife suggestion and even there I mentioned I was surprised you carry a manix in NYC, so.. YES your manix is ILLEGAL.. it can actually get you jail time I believe, around a county year I think.. take a UKPK with you to work. You are allowed to keep the manix in your home so don't worry.. but your manix is very illegal when you step out of your house into NYC.

Thanx for all the great info . i just ordered my Manix2 xl and I should get it this coming Tuesday , the cutting surface is 3.8 inches . It is strictly a work knife and nothing else . Man that sucks for me!

[mattman]

Everybody needs to clarify that the laws of NYC differ greatly from the rest of the state. DA Vance has no jurisdiction up here, even if I suffer the ill effects...