Navaja Carraca

[sal]

Hi all,

First I would like to thank all of our customers that have purchased this new model and I would like to thank Ed Schempp for his research and design.

I guess we are having some customers that have experiences breakage of the spring that makes the "noise". At this time we are studying possible causes.

I would like to say that the placement of the spring on the gear is a critical location that is placed by expert knifemakerrs. We know that misplacing the spring can cause this breakage. I would suggest that you do not remove and replace the spring.

I am also interested in your experiences with this new concept as we continue to develop.

sal

[bh49]

Sir,
Thank you for terrific knife and letting us know that Spyderco as always working on improvements.
Are any chance in the future to make grind thinner and sound louder? :) :D
Great knife. Love it.

[gbelleh]

Thank you for the post. I'm really enjoying my Navaja, and it's still clicking away.

[navajasound]

Thanks for the post ! I really hope that you will find what the problem is, if there is any . I realy like the knife ,but because of this spring breaking several times ,still hesitate to buy it,because i can't return it for fixing as I live in Europe. I hope there will be a second and improved run of the knife .
PLEASE DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE KNIFE ,JUST PUT A MORE RELIABLE SPRING :)

[jonUSA,EARTH]

Thanks for the info Sal :)


BTW...Will we be able to send our knives in to have the Repair Dept replace the springs when they become available(if they do)?

Thanks

[gunnut35]

Thank you for the post.
I love the Navaja and i am happy to report that mine is still going strong. I have opened and closed it more times that i can count and it is still perfect.
Thank you Sal, and Ed for a great knife.

[Armalite Native]

Yep I gotta chime in about how much I really dig this knife. I will be taking good care of it so I can hand it down to my children one day. I will watch with interest to see what comes up and not disassemble. The problem for some of us is we live in countries with very tight customs controls. Sometimes we can get a blade in once but to try to get it past customs a second times you run the risk of it being seized.

Mine is still functional 24 hours in. Regardless of the caracca it is still a great knife and I hope Spyderco is not discouraged because of us nattering between ourselves about the whole thing. For me the most attractive feature is the balance of the knife. Its weighty but perfectly balanced.

One thing I noticed on mine: while the knife came sharpish it was not the same edge I get from Golden Col made knives. No biggie - onto the sharpmaker it will go.

And to the guy higher up who is unsure: It really is worth the asking price with the spring or without it. I hope you do grab one.

[nirvanero]

Greetings from Spain Sal, home of the original navajas. My english isn't perfect but I speak knife too... :D

So far everything is fine with mine. For me the sound is just secondary, I see it as a "wink" to the owners of navajas and a future breaking of the spring doesn't worry me at all. I just wish you could send spare springs for those living outside USA, even if this isn't the way you'd like to fix it.

What does really matter is this knife has an excellent design, great ergonomics and impressive looks, all in a high quality package. The more I handle it the more I like it!

[Pinetreebbs]

Sal,

I love it for it's looks a functionality. Mine make a subtle clicking noise but I would like it just as much if the noise maker stopped working. The authoritative sound the lock make when opened is good enough.

A huge Thank You to Ed Schempp for the design and to you for getting it made.

[buferoe]

Hi Sal,

My navaja is still working fine, and the carraca is a nice gadget on this knife.
I must say that the fit and finnish is superb on this knife from Taiwan, it's a great design from Ed.
For me it's not a big problem when the spring would fail, because it would be very costly to ship this knife to Colorado from the Netherlands.

kind regards,

Werner

[dschur]

Registered so I could post my first post.

The Navaja was my first Spyderco. It is an awesome knife from a control perspective and I love the twill cf. If the carracca breaks on mine (still going strong), it would be minor compared to how great this knife is - excellent job Ed and Sal.

In the month since I have bought the Navaja, I have also gotten a Sage 1 (awesome!), Chicago, Cricket (cf), and Kiwi (cf). I will get the Chapparal the second it's available and am watching for news. I've not bought any non Spydercos since.

The Navaja was my first hit of Spyderco crack for me, and it along with my other new spiders have me hooked. I am now fearful I will be "Chasing the Dragon" from here on out when it comes to knives :)

[Armalite Native]

One question I would like to ask other users:

On the handle of the Navaja where the carbon ply meets the bolster - has anyone noticed a slight scratchy edge? On one side of my handle its fine but the other side it feels like the milling on the bolster was a tad off and as a result it scratches across the hand when using the knife. I would post a pic but the difference in hight between the ply and the bolster would be hard for me to pick up on camera. Not a big issue but its a little annoying.

[gbelleh]

On mine, one side of the CF is a fraction of a millimeter higher than the bolster, but not enough to notice. I never noticed until I looked really closely just now. Definitely nothing scratchy there.

[Armalite Native]

On mine, one side of the CF is a fraction of a millimeter higher than the bolster, but not enough to notice. I never noticed until I looked really closely just now. Definitely nothing scratchy there.

Ahh **** for me its the other way - the bolster is slightly higher than the CF. I think the scratchy feeling is the edge of the steel bolster against my hand. If others have a similar thing its something Spyderco might want to look into. Its not a deal breaker by any means - but I know the standards they aim at. I am hoping my hand meat will wear away the sharp edge over time.

[kiwispyder]

Has anyone deterred criminal behavior with the clicker yet?
I thought spyderco was about function over form.
Btw I love spyderco have many and will buy many more, have a digi para2 being shipped to me right now.
But the clicker thing has me confused.

[jvberryjr]

I just received my Navaja yesterday and I thought I would give my $.02 worth. A little background first. When I first saw the Navaja, I was initially captivated by its unique design. I am an architect by training and trade, so I have an eye (I hope) for good design. I also did not buy it as much to use as to admire and occasionally carry. I have enough other knives to carry, abuse (or even lose!). I'm not doing that with this knife. Here are some observations:

I like the attention to design detail - such as the way the brushed finish on the blade is at right angles to the "unground" part by the bolsters and the way the "unground" part is at right angles to the bolsters. It also seems that the two liners and spacers are of one milled out piece. If these are made up of three pieces, I cant see the seam!

I believe a well designed knife should look just as good closed as it does open. The Navaja fits this criteria. The way the spyderhole is concentric to that little curved choil thingy is neat. The way the pointy curved end of the handle receives the unique curvature of the blade is a nice touch as well.

Craftsmanship is superb! I usually inspect a product for imperfections immediately upon receipt. I did the same with this knife. The tolerances, the fit and finish are impeccable. Foe example using a scarf cut where the bolsters meet the CF scales makes for a clean joint.

The CF scales are mesmerizing!

Well I could go on, but need to get to other things. The only things that could possible be construed as a criticism is that the carraca sound is louder when closing than opening. (I had to find something!) :)

Great job Mr. Schempp, Spyderco and the folks in Taichung!!

By the way, the economy is slow in northwest Ohio. Does anyone need a building designed? :)

[bh49]

Has anyone deterred criminal behavior with the clicker yet?

Not yet. But you never know the future. :) :D

I thought spyderco was about function over form.
But the clicker thing has me confused.

That doesn't mean that the beautiful knife cannot perform. I EDC my Persians and Calys for several years they are beautiful knives and cuts like laser. Got quite a few compliments on my EDCs. Three of my coworkers bought various Persians, two bought Calys as well.

[Armalite Native]

I tend to agree after a week of owning this thing - its a quality product which was very well thought out. I actually don't mind anymore if my ratcheting sound dies quick.

[fifthprofession47]

I love my Navaja and am glad it has worked just fine so far.

[jhobson]

I have been marveling at the lines since I got it. I flipped it a few thousand times but now my spring is broke. I took it apart to see what I could do but the very tip wore down and the spring has fatigued at the eye where it is screwed to the liner. Taking it apart just increases my appreciation of the build. Is there any replacement available anywhere in the UK? I didn't get mine from an authorized dealer (it _did_ come from a reputable source that Sal would approve of) so I can't send it back, and wouldn't want to be without it anyway.
Can one buy spares?

I'll have a go at making a spring... but I don't suppose there has been any change to the design of the item has there?