New Full-Size Manix?

[FissionMailed]

I read in one of the other threads that there is going to be a re-issue of the C95 manix... Are there any pics of this update? Does anyone know the blade steel and locking mech.? Thanks. :]

[The Deacon]

Don't recall reading exactly that. Did read that a "larger" Manix was planned. Almost sounded like it would be bigger than the C95 and the impression I got was that it would have a caged ball lock.

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

I just hope that when the new Manix XL comes out that they move the spydie hole a bit further away from the edge...also that the blade is big. 4.5 inches minimum.

Edited to say...4.5 inch cutting surface is what I meant. So...5 inch blade.

[pwet]

that's not the first time i hear this comment but i can't get what you mean. you want a wider blade ? smaller hole ? a more pronounced hump ?

spyderhole placement looks allright to me.

[angusW]

I'm looking forward to the large Manix. I believe I heard it was going to use a caged ball lock as well.

I'm not sure the hole could be moved any further from the edge. The top of the hole is only 1/6" from the top of the blade.

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Not further from the cutting edge, further away from the spine. Maybe even shrink it by 1mm...

[The Deacon]

Not further from the cutting edge, further away from the spine. Maybe even shrink it by 1mm...

For what reason? Just curious because most folks want the Spyderhole to be as large as possible since it makes normal opening of the knife easier, especially with cold, wet, or gloved hands. There are some models where I wish it could be moved a bit, to be in a better position for my thumb to move it smoothly around its arc, but none where I'd want it smaller. In fact, having been spoiled by owning a couple Remote Release EMTs with 15mm Spyderholes, there have been are times I've wished that was the "standard" Spyderhole size.

[Kohbanang]

Have got 11 Manix at this time and 3 on pre-order.No problems anyway with the spydie hole,old an new ones.Will be nice to see a large M2 with encased ball bearing lock,but for better close only with your thumb i think a bigger Ball will work a little bit easier?!

[recoil]

A larger Manix sounds like something I would buy! :D

dave

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

For what reason? Just curious because most folks want the Spyderhole to be as large as possible since it makes normal opening of the knife easier, especially with cold, wet, or gloved hands. There are some models where I wish it could be moved a bit, to be in a better position for my thumb to move it smoothly around its arc, but none where I'd want it smaller. In fact, having been spoiled by owning a couple Remote Release EMTs with 15mm Spyderholes, there have been are times I've wished that was the "standard" Spyderhole size.

Well, I've got average sized hands and I find that I don't need the hole that big, even in heavy gloves. But I also find that I use the edge of the hole rather than sticking my thumb into the hole, even in gloves.

And actually with the Manix, if the hole were 1/8th of an inch closer to the pivot I'd find that easiest for opening, comfortable position for my hand and a better thumb arc.

I just find that the hole where it is, it seems to be a weak spot on a tough knife. And I am sure that is not the case, but that is the impression that it leaves me with. The Manix is a heavy and stout knife and I find that thin piece of steel at the edge of that hole disconcerting and makes me hesitant to want to use the knife hard.

I think that I would like to see the hole a fraction smaller and then maybe moved so that it is directly under the point where the finger ramp meets the spine. Then the Manix blade would be totally 100% for me. Don't get me wrong I really love it now, I'd give it a 97%, but that one small move would be ideal.

Just my .02.

[VashHash]

I've used my manix 2 harder than most. Pretty much abused it and it just laughs it off never had any problems with it yet. The hole definitely isn't a weakness if you break the hole you break the blade

[jzmtl]

I just find that the hole where it is, it seems to be a weak spot on a tough knife. And I am sure that is not the case, but that is the impression that it leaves me with. The Manix is a heavy and stout knife and I find that thin piece of steel at the edge of that hole disconcerting and makes me hesitant to want to use the knife hard.

It's only weakened if you pry with it, for cutting it actually increase the strength sorta like how truss works.

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Like I said, I'm sure that it's not the case, but it's the impression that I get by looking at the knife. So I suppose that it's a purely aesthetic thing, and I should just get over it.
I know that Spyderco wouldn't release a knife that was flawed in some way for it's intended use.
But when I compare the thickness of the steel between the hole and the spine on the Manix vs other Spydies, there is quite a bit less...and it just give me the impression that it's not as strong. But I do love the Manix, so not really an issue, just something that bugs me.

[The Deacon]

I understand that impressions can sometimes strongly affect our preferences. On the other hand, I've been on this forum, and others where Spyderco has a presence, for almost eight years and, in all that time, have only seen one Spyderco knife that broke at the hole. IIRC, that one was a case of a defective blade, an internal void which was undetectable until the blade broke. Given the abuse some owners subject their knives to, and the eagerness with which they publicize the damage they manage to cause, I think that speaks well of how little the hole impacts blade strength. I also vaguely recall that back when folks were doing DIY "wave" jobs on Spyderco knives by cutting into the hole from the front, Sal decided to see how much that weakened the blade and was impressed by how little it did.

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Oh I don't suspect that any Spyderco I ever use will break. My use is pretty light most of the time, but yes that impressions bugs me. For example I look at the Resilience blade and even though I know that technically it is not as good as the Manix, the blade looks strong, better, more durable.
Course I speak no ill of either blade, I like them both a lot. Just something that given my personal preference I would maybe change (depending of course on the impact it had on the usability of the knife)
In fact I aim to purchase a great many more Manix. I'd love to see one in carbon steel.

[CharlesIV]

a larger manix sounds like something i would buy! :d

dave

+ 1

[dj moonbat]

It seems like having a hole toward the spine would allow some amount (however slight) of "give" that would, in the vast majority of use cases, result in LESS blade breakage.