Rock Lobster: Initial Thoughts

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Rock Lobster: Initial Thoughts

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Alright, I’ve been really busy lately but it’s high time I put up my review of the Rock Lobster. First, I’m surprised, that with all the hype leading up the release of this knife that there hasn’t been more feedback or reviews on the forums. I can only think that it’s for the same reasons it took me about a month of deliberation to make this purchase. Originally, I was very excited about the Anso/Spyderco collaboration but as time went on and newer knives came out my interest started to wane and other purchases were becoming priority. Then there is the whole issue of the pricing which I think if you all read Qboy’s post here: http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthre ... 878&page=5
He pretty much sums of my view of the whole pricing issue. Next to my S90V Millie this is the most I’ve paid for a Spyderco to date. On to the review.

I’ve loved the Rock Lobster design ever since I first saw the custom version on another forum years ago. I think it’s one of the most visually appealing folder designs (both open and closed) out there. I also think Anso is a great forward thinking and progressive knife maker. The Spyderco version of his design does not disappoint. Handling the knife when closed is very comfortable and ergo friendly, it sort of reminds me of a banana…
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The fit and finish is the same quality of the Superhawk and is on par with anything coming out of Golden, CO. I love the Golden made knives but one small thing that I like about the construction of the newer Seki knives is the actual hardware that is used. I’ve disassembled my Superhawk once I was surprised to find that the standoffs go through the SS liners. I can only assume that the Lobster has the same construction and this makes for a much more rigid knife as opposed to my Lil’ Temp which has standoffs that are only held in place by the small screws. The domed screws on the scale are also a little beefier than the normal flat head screws you would find on the Millies and Paras. It’s a very solid knife and it was a little heavier than I expected but don’t worry it’s not too heavy.

With regards to the blade being VG-10, I much prefer VG-10 to an S30V blade. There no issues for me since I think VG-10 is easier to maintain and it takes a nice edge. The lock bar is a little thicker than the Millie’s and it is very stiff (which I like) with a positive lock up.


Ergonomics, this is probably the one area that is still plaguing me after carrying the knife for two weeks. I think I have small to medium sized hands because I always thought Millie was too big for me (lately, my opinion has been changing on that). Someone else has mentioned that the Rock Lobster has a “super choil” which is fairly accurate. When I grip the knife for normal cutting my middle finger tends to feel lost. Unless I modify my grip or really bare down its feels like my middle finger is just sort of hanging there, not resting on anything. I sort of surprised me since it’s such a wide knife, about as wide as the Lil’ Temp. I’ve played around with some different grip styles; one was an attempt to choke up on the knife by squeezing all three fingers in the choil. Believe it or not, it actually works for me. Another more comfortable grip I tried was just hanging on to the back of the knife, sort of an extended fencing grip. This has actually been the most comfortable grip for me but blade control is reduced to some extent. I haven’t tried a regular grip with gloves yet but I think that it would feel really good in a gloved hand. I noticed that the “super choil” closely resembles the large cutout on the Lil’ Temp. Upon closer inspection I noticed that the Lil’ Temp is slightly smaller and ramps up gradually towards the back. This makes sense now because of all the knives I’ve owned the Lil’ Temp fits my hand perfectly, it sort of just melts into my hand. Unfortunately, without tampering with Anso’s original design I’m just going to have to spend more time finding a comfortable grip with the Lobster. Forgot to mention, opening and closing one handed is a breeze. Whatever Sal had to change on the placement of the hole works because it’s spot on.
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I have a few comparison pics pointing out different things I’ve noticed. The Rock Lobster is actually thinner than the Millie (it’s hard to tell from the pic but side by side it’s very noticeable). It’s also about a good inch shorter than the Millie. The other two pics are just obligatory Spyder porn showing how my last three purchaces have all been green handled Spyders. Enjoy.
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Overall, I’m very pleased with the Rock Lobster. I think this is one of those design intensive projects that will either be picked up and embraced by a hardcore minority of Spyderco fans or if it gets discontinued in a few years it will become a highly sought after and collectable piece. I’m much more of a knife user and abuser so I hope this one stays around for a while so I can get another one when I have to retire my first Rock Lobster.
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Very nice review, Thanks!

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It looks like the knife would be great for food prep or for use as a rescue type knife due to the rounded "blunt" tip.

I have several of those type knives, as the blade shapes tend to be unusual, but I find that not having a defined point is very cumbersome for the type of uses I need a knife for.
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Thanks for the write up and the pictures, it was well done. I'm also surprised at how little has been said about the knife since it's release. Might have to sell a knife or two and check one out.
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Vivi, thanks. My feeling on this knife is that regardless of how it fits (one's hand) or functions as a tool it will be highly cherished and sought after based on Anso's name and the design. Similar to the Ayoob or Lil' Temp. Based the quality of the build I highly doubt I'll ever part with this knife. Oh, and for my purposes the blade is highly functional.
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Excellent pictures showing the various grips. Thanks for posting them.
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Excellent Review. Very informative. We all know why this hasn't been reviewed very much....$$$$$! Like anything else, you get what you pay for. That's why I can't see myself spending my money on anything else other than Spyderco. One thought though... G10 handle, VG-10 steel, bout the same size as a Millie but costs around $70 more? Some ask why. Royalties maybe? Still.. It's one of the best designs I've seen. I tell ya what... It's still on my wish list of next purchases.
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It's on my "buy list" too...but for the price of my beloved EDC CF/S90V Millie...and I really want a CF/ZDP-189 Stretch II...the Rock Lobster just keeps getting pushed back. I have several VG-10 knives and love them all. I just haven't found "that deal" on that particular model yet. I just can't pay CF/S90V/ZDP-189 prices on a G10/VG-10 knife. :o
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I handled one of these in the outlet store, and it is really well constructed. I just have a hard time spending that kind of money and not having jimping on the blade and handle. Even though this isn't a blade for a typical thrust kind of cut, it is a big personal preference on my part.
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Very nice write-up. I didn't realize the Rock Lobster is as big as it is. Could you possibly throw up a quick snapshot of it next your Millie?
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There's already a pic of it next to the Millie and it is about an inch shorter than the Millie.
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Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure of how much optical illusion was present due to the Rock Lobster being positioned in front of the Millie.
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A.M., Great review and pictures. Thx for posting your thoughts on the masterpiece.
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I have not handled one of the ANso made custom Rocks. That said, the Spyderco version is cool but just does not feel right in my hand. I remain anxiously awaiting the Leafstorm.
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Well, I finally convinced myself to pull the trigger on a Rock Lobster. It wasn't easy for me to spend as much for VG-10 and FG G-10 as I had for S90V and CF, but I finally blindsided my common sense and got it done. I suspect the price on the new Spydies coming out of Japan has more to do with the exchange rate on yen to dollars than it does with royalties and profits for Spyderco. I'm sure the royalties to Jens and the new tooling contributed to the price, but the exchange rate is a pretty major factor.

I guess time will tell if this was a good move or not.
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yablanowitz,

You won't be disappointed. After talking to TazKristi and having some knowledge of running a tool and die business, I think this design has more to do with tooling and just the flat out work of making an entirely new design, than the yen exchange rate... just my two cents.

The purpose of my review was to encourage more Spyderco fans to try this design in spite of the lack of a high end steel or Golden manufacturing. I feel like there was a lot of initial interest behind this design when it was first discussed over a year ago. Now it seems like a lot of people are really turned off by a price that is really not that unreasonable (IMHO) to bring a real innovative design to the general public. I guess I would just hate to see a great design get discontinued because of lack of support. The apprehensiveness of potential buyers of the Rock Lobster seems to mimic the same apprehension that surrounded the Superhawk when it first came out. After lurking on the forums for a few years I've noticed that people will go to great lengths to get Sal and Co. to produce a particular model and then balk when they find out the price of the 'said' model. After working for several small businesses I've come to realize that Spyderco is really taking a gamble to produce knives of this caliber for such a niche market.

I will add that when the RL was discussed I thought I'd buy it as soon as it came out... of course I too balked at the price. But after much thought I decided to take a gamble and I'm really glad I did. Regardless, of what I paid I'm very pleased with the execution of this design. I think that as consumers we're going to have to recognize that if we are willing to get behind a product and solicit a new design, that we are going to have to foot the bill for some of that work in order for the company to at least break even.

Buy a Rock Lobster and enjoy! I'll take VG-10 any day...
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Well, I can't say I've lobbied for many knives that have come to pass. For the way I use my knives, VG-10 doesn't really impress me, either. Be that as it may, there is one coming my way. We shall see if it fits my hands better than some of the others I've bought. I have a bunch of knives that I really liked the looks of until I held them. I hope this one isn't in that group.
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I was going to say you need to find a B&M but after looking up dealers in KS, ummm you really don't have any :( . i am still up in the air on this one, that and my credit card is all paid off and i am busy finding old rare :spyder: s and those take first priority while the rock lobster is still in production.
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Yeah, my "local" B&M dealer is Knives Plus in Amarillo, Texas. It is 176 miles from my door to theirs by the shortest route I have found.
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