why aren't combo edges serrated at the front?

[Pete1977]

I am curious as to why spyderco never attempted to place the serrations of a combination edge on the front of the blade. is it because of aesthetics, poor testing results by r&d, production limitations, ease of resharpening or some other practical reason? I use ce blades quite a bit and with deeper or pointier serrations I tend to hang them up in fibrous materials. when carving points into wood I find myself using the front of the blade and think it would be easier and more comfortable to use the edge near the tang. when cutting rope with the edge up and the blade in the bight or slicing rope on a cutting board I have found it easier to start the cut with the rear portion of the blade edge. a combo edge with the serrations forward would make this easier. to date I have only used one knife set up like this (victorinox one hand trekker) and only know of three models in production that offer ce blades with the serrations at the tip, the OHT, Victorinox Soldier's Knife (i think that's the name) and the AG Russell Seamaster. I have yet to pick up a sea master due to cost and the 440C/Stainless handled version does not offer that edge configuration IIRC. Would spyderco ever consider producing a knife with the serrations at the tip?

[Doc Pyres]

I've often wondered the same exact thing.

[i.v]

+1
I never liked CE blades (and no longer own any). The only exception is my Swisstool Spirit, the CE blade on it is plain near the handle and I actually found it to be a very good setup.

[Fred Sanford]

If a blade has got to be CE, I agree, the serrations should be at the front close to the tip. Victorinox does this well with their One Handed Trekker.

[anson argyris]

the 440C/Stainless handled version does not offer that edge configuration IIRC.

Just take a look at AG Russels website:

http://www.agrussell.com/ag-russell-sta ... hhh118SSF/

[buglerbilly]

Don't know why really, but I've thought since it came out that the Jumpmaster would suit a CE version with the serrations at the front........

Regards,

BRIAN

[gaj999]

Probably the same reason that most all chisel grinds are ground for lefties. Looks.

Gordon

[npueppke]

I would guess that it is because having serrations too close to the tip would make it fragile. It would also potentially shorten the life of the blade as the serrations are sharpened it would be easy to completely ruin the tip. On the other hand, I don't know why some Spyderco's have close to an inch unserrated at the tip.

On another note, check out the Boker Direkt for an implementation of serrations near the tip of the blade only. Don't own one but it implements the exact concept.

[Jay_Ev]

On another note, check out the Boker Direkt for an implementation of serrations near the tip of the blade only. Don't own one but it implements the exact concept.

I have become so accustomed and used to seeing the serrations near the handle. I checked out pics of that Boker and I have to say that it doesn't look half bad (no pun intended). I like it.

[catamount]

Here's Sal's answer:

There are a few companies that have done that. We thought about it for years. At this time, we believe, having teeth close to hilt gives you greater leverage for cutting thick line, tough materials like seat belts, etc.

http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.p ... 570&page=2

[sixheads]

I love CE blades and prefer the serrations near the handel for tough cuts, and the normal blade at the end for fine cutting.

Sixheads

[KaliGman]

Here is a little video I did with the Boker Direkt with the serrations near the tip--it performed well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWdEvl9wNY

[Jay_Ev]

Thanks for that video, KaliGman. And I wish you a speedy recovery on your wrist / hand!

[THG]

I suggested this a while ago. While doing clean push cutting, I think people tend to use the lower portion of the blade, toward the ricasso. I don't like to have to try to keep a box at the belly of the blade toward the tip when I'm doing something like that. And if I want to rip right through, then with serrations toward the tip, I can start a clean cut and rip aggressively at the end.

It seems win-win to me.

[mark greenman]

There should be reverse CE sprint run of the Endura (or Endura wave, perhaps?) IMO. I think it could be a real game changer in the CE world, and would at least sell all of the sprint knives (wave would increase the odds on that account)

The reverse CE would be much better for the woods, would be easier to sharpen, and would make better use of the SE portion, since SE is ideal for pull cuts, and pull cuts occur at the tip of the knife.

[THG]

and would make better use of the SE portion, since SE is ideal for pull cuts, and pull cuts occur at the tip of the knife.

Exactly what I'm saying. I'm not an SE guy, and much less a CE guy, but I think for SE/CE purposes, this style is more effective.

[RICHAR]

I have seen Timberline CE knives with the serrations to the front.

[dialex]

I am curious as to why spyderco never attempted to place the serrations of a combination edge on the front of the blade?...

Hi Peter,

Actually, they did, pretty long time ago. I remember I've seen an SS Police CE with the serrations near the tip.

[aj1985]

I believe older busse fixed blades also have serrations in the front portion of the knife.

Serrations will improve any knife imo, because serration can just keep cutting.

Imo a recurve is really the only type of knife that will drastically improve if serrations were placed nearer the tip.

aj

[markg]

I'm with Sal on this one...

I prefer them where they are, it is like they open the door and the PE walks in.