Bad News for UK knife lovers

[El Comanche]

Saw this article in the bbc. Gordon Brown was quoted "We will continue to make absolutely clear that carrying a knife is unacceptable in our society". I'm sure that will be as successful as the gun ban in D.C.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7502569.stm

[araneae]

Bad news indeed...

[spydutch]

I feel very sorry for my Britisch fellow knife brothers :mad:

However I'm afraid we will follow soon :mad: :mad:

[krazichinaman]

Saw this article in the bbc. Gordon Brown was quoted "We will continue to make absolutely clear that carrying a knife is unacceptable in our society". I'm sure that will be as successful as the gun ban in D.C.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7502569.stm

Too bad for them that the D.C. gun ban has been overturned and ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court last month. I'm sure they will neglict to mention that though. :mad:
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[cockroach]

He may be Prime Minister :rolleyes: but he doesn't understand his own country's laws.
It is still legal to carry a sub 3" non locking folder without any justification, and over 3", or locking, or fixed blade if you've got good reason.
There are currently no plans for that to change, what he is actually talking about stamping out (but can't express properly) is the carrying of knives as weapons, which is already illegal in the UK, but is a growing problem with an increasing number of (mainly) teenagers being stabbed.

[Piet.S]

However I'm afraid we will follow soon :mad: :mad:

Yep, it's Bali's and automatics pretty soon, for us to loose.
And if that doesn't stop the stabbing incidents (what do you think?) they will ban some more.

[diaBECKtic]

I don't know - I think that recent Supreme Court ruling was pretty important. In my view, government causes more problems than it solves. However, they did stand up for our constitutionally garunteed rights for once...

[Peter1960]

Saw this article in the bbc. Gordon Brown was quoted "We will continue to make absolutely clear that carrying a knife is unacceptable in our society". ...

I hope the good man - Mr. Gordon Brown makes a joke :eek:
From my point of view such a future is unacceptable for a society!

[bh49]

"We will continue to make absolutely clear that carrying a knife is unacceptable in our society," he (Mr. Brown) said.

I think that in order to make society safer the list of dangerous and prohibited to carry and posses item should include not only knives, but also: pens, pencils, scissors, keys, flashlights, screwdrivers, wrenches, drills, drill bits, any objects heavier than 100 grams (4 oz) or harder than water. In addition to this just to be safe, before leaving home every person's hands should be tied behind backs. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Does this remind you something?

[Henry1960]

"We will continue to make absolutely clear that carrying a knife is unacceptable in our society," he (Mr. Brown) said.

I think that in order to make society safer the list of dangerous and prohibited to carry and posses item should include not only knives, but also: pens, pencils, scissors, keys, flashlights, screwdrivers, wrenches, drills, drill bits, any objects heavier than 100 grams (4 oz) or harder than water. In addition to this just to be safe, before leaving home every person's hands should be tied behind backs. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Does this remind you something?

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[diaBECKtic]

"We will continue to make absolutely clear that carrying a knife is unacceptable in our society," he (Mr. Brown) said.

I think that in order to make society safer the list of dangerous and prohibited to carry and posses item should include not only knives, but also: pens, pencils, scissors, keys, flashlights, screwdrivers, wrenches, drills, drill bits, any objects heavier than 100 grams (4 oz) or harder than water. In addition to this just to be safe, before leaving home every person's hands should be tied behind backs. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Does this remind you something?

To quote myself, "anything is a weapon if you try hard enough." Politicians are completely and utterly incompetant; making these laws does not address the real issue. To (loosely) quote the shirt that Richard Kiel was wearing in Happy Gilmore "guns don't kill people, [people] do." The government might as well just kill us all, because you can use any apendage of your body as a weapon too - strangling somebody with your bare hands is about as primal as it gets. How in the $*#& do you stop that Big Brother?

That's right...
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[markg]

Close the pubs and night clubs and you will see a major drop in stabbings and murders...

Addressing the economic and sociological factors that contribute to crime is the most effective way to deal with the issue. How ever it takes time and is hard work.

Weapon control is a short term, highly visible tool that gives immediate currency to politicians. As is noted, folks simply substitute something else for the banned weapon.

Another route (taken in the USA) is to simply arm your citizens. CCW does have a way of chilling crime. As it has been said "an armed society is a polite society..." There is some truth to that.

As long as we celebrate "drunkenness" in popular culture we will have problems. I am not talking about prohibition (that had its own set of issues), however responsible use of alcohol.

[feeny]

I think it is inappropriate to be be dangerously armed and out in a public space whilst intoxicated.

I believe our local knife laws (Australia) specifically deal with a case of carrying knives into licensed venues that serve alcohol - especially late night pubs and clubs.

I have to say that I agree with this in principle. Knife + young male adult + lots of alcohol + nightclub is a bad combination in my view...

[ozspyder]

In my State (NSW) in AUstralia we are prohibited to carry any knife (including SAKs). IIRC the same applies in every other state in Aust. However, it would be rare to be stopped by a cop and have those items confiscated off you. In other words, if they have cause to stop and search you/ your vehicle it means you have caught their attention somehow. If you are the sort to attract undue atention then best leave your collection at home.

No gun carry or knife carry whatsoever in Oz I fear that the British will follow us, and unfortunately (or arguably not) other countries might follow suit.

The only ones left armed with weapons will be those who NEVER follow the laws regardless .... sad sad news for the moral majority.

It's politics like this which sometimes confuses me. They are appointed to voice our opinions and protect our interests, yet it seems the only interests they are protecting are their own whilst the public suffer their freedoms and safety for it all.

Time to do some gardening before they outlaw the use of spades without a permit.

[MLR]

No gun carry or knife carry whatsoever in Oz

You're not fooling me--I've seen both Crocodiles Dundee! :-)

[Bolster]

Politicians are completely and utterly incompetant; making these laws does not address the real issue...

Wish I didn't disagree, but I do. Politicians are very competent at doing what matters most (to them), getting elected. If there weren't a sizable number of nutty people supporting their actions, they wouldn't enact the nutty laws they do. Forcing people to behave in ways that the majority of the electorate finds reprehensible is a function reserved for the judiciary, not the legislature, in the USA. Once you're a judge you don't answer to anybody.

At any rate, I'm off topic: this is a British issue, and so I wish 'strength and honor' to my knife bros in Britain...hope you have a well organized opposition to the knife banners.

[Doc Pyres]

Banning guns in Canada, like some in the UK want to ban knives, has been highly effective at stopping criminals from getting whatever they like, and we all feel much safer now...NOT! :mad:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news ... 8cf7b4508b

[SoCal Operator]

Knife-fellows, I believe our position as devout tool-users is clear: We must, as a group, discontinue use of the word "knife." Mr. Brown states that carrying a knife is unacceptable, but he mentions nothing about carrying a super-happy-fun-slicey-friend. Spread the word.

[Hookpunch]

I read one article on the stabbings in Britain, a large percentage of the weapons were modified kitchen knives.....banning sports knives is ridiculous, even the current rules on length and locking mechanism is stupid.


Perhaps they should go all out and ban Wusthofs, Henckels and Global kitchen knives and reduce their food professionals and citizens to using plastic knives for
food preparation.

[raggasonic]

Hi guys.

I understand what you're worrying about, but keep cool.
In France, carrying a knife is STRICTLY forbidden.
As far as I carry knives (about 20 years), I've already been controlled many times by policemen, but every time I did, they always let me go. Off course, you'd better not carry a civilian or another :spyder: beast like that, but a delica or an endura with scratches on the blade and a "Sorry, I use it everyday at work, I forgot to let it at home" is really often enough to go on.

Don't worry guys