Knife Fighting Grips for Self Defense
- Dr. Snubnose
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Knife Fighting Grips for Self Defense
How you hold your knife for SD is really a personal preference...Here's a poll...vote for your favorite knife gripping technique and tell us why you choose to use it....Let me first say there are no right or wrong answers... only preferences.....So let's not debate over which method is better but only what you choose to use and your reasons for it.....You may vote for multiple choices...Doc :D
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- bigkahunasix
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About 80% of my initial trainig was with a kabar and mid-size bowie and the filipino grip has always felt the most solid and comfortable. It also provides me the most accuracy for point strikes and power for slashes.
I have found the pikal (forward or reverse) effective for sudden, ambush
or suprise attacks.
YMMV
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I have found the pikal (forward or reverse) effective for sudden, ambush
or suprise attacks.
YMMV
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Grips
I have used and practiced most of these grips (and a few not on the list). I do not in general use the edge in pakal grip, as I prefer other options.
There are three grips that I seem to use the most when I start adding stimulus to training and get into serious and fast training/sparring, so I voted for all of them--hammer, filipino/cancer/crab, and reverse/ice pick/pakal edge out. I have found that certain knives or situations call for different grips, and that one of these three will get the job done most of the time. I still use and practice other grips, though--call me fickle. :p
Zenheretic's choice, the hammer, is one of the two grips I first teach my students. Why?--because, as Zen says, it is strong. It is hard to go wrong with hammer as a strong/don't lose the grip on the knife type of grip. When first learning students always lose the knife, and training blades are flying everywhere :eek: . If I were limited to only one grip for stick, knife, sword, tomahawk, etc. use, it would probably be hammer.
There are three grips that I seem to use the most when I start adding stimulus to training and get into serious and fast training/sparring, so I voted for all of them--hammer, filipino/cancer/crab, and reverse/ice pick/pakal edge out. I have found that certain knives or situations call for different grips, and that one of these three will get the job done most of the time. I still use and practice other grips, though--call me fickle. :p
Zenheretic's choice, the hammer, is one of the two grips I first teach my students. Why?--because, as Zen says, it is strong. It is hard to go wrong with hammer as a strong/don't lose the grip on the knife type of grip. When first learning students always lose the knife, and training blades are flying everywhere :eek: . If I were limited to only one grip for stick, knife, sword, tomahawk, etc. use, it would probably be hammer.
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I've been trying to get out of the mindset of "favorite grip", but I keep getting hampered by the fact that, well, I have a favorite grip that I am more effective with. But I've been trying to mix it up, and concentrate on "survive regardless of grip".
The grips I use are: pakal edge-in (fave), hammer (forward) grip edge down, hammer grip edge-up. The grip I strongly dislike is reverse edge-out. I won't use sabre, cancer, or any other grip in which my thumb isn't wrapped. Oops, didn't realize I could pick multiple choices so I am only showing up under pakal edge-in.
The grips I use are: pakal edge-in (fave), hammer (forward) grip edge down, hammer grip edge-up. The grip I strongly dislike is reverse edge-out. I won't use sabre, cancer, or any other grip in which my thumb isn't wrapped. Oops, didn't realize I could pick multiple choices so I am only showing up under pakal edge-in.
I try not to get too fixated on a grip. I try to practice a variety....however I can grab the darn thing. My most important thing is it(edged,gun etc.) being locked in. In close spontaneous from the draw....hammer grip forward, reverse edge-in or out. Depends on the tool I have. Ice-pick is pretty instinctive up close :D
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I am, essentially, untrained in knife related SD save for a few basics learned for the sake of practicing disarming techniques. Making no claim to mastery, I figure that a reverse/edge-out grip will allow me to keep the blade relatively concealed if needs be, and give me a strong cut for working inside (as I have no intention of reaching for my opponent). Thankfully I have never been faced with a situation that would demand drawing a knife to protect life and limb.
One day I'll look into formal training.
One day I'll look into formal training.
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I personally would'nt necessarily favor one over the other of the various types that I do use, and that is: Make a fist, I don't care if it's pointing up or down, edge in or out. The way I've trained (http://www.scars.com or [url]http://www.tftgroup.com)[/url], it doesn't matter. Cool thread though. I also train in MMA for sport :) .
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