Hey,
Does anyone know much about the caly 4 / urban? Basically they're just the Caly 3 / UK pen knife but 2.5 inch blade to be legal in Boston and Chicago type places. Have decisions been made about materials for blades, bolsters, and scales? What's their ETA?
Thanks,
Kuro
Any news on the caly 4 / urban?
This is the same one that will have many different hande materials available for it right?
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I believe that's what Sal said.
"Always keep an edge on your knife son, because a good sharp edge is a man's best hedge against the vague uncertainties of life."
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Big Handles not for me
Not for me, thanks. I don't want to carry any more handle than I have to. I think big handles on carry knives simply make for higher profiles that attract the attention of anti-knife people. I like everything about the ParaMilitary except for that out-sized handle, so I won't own one.freeman7 wrote:Slightly larger handle on Caly variation is just the ticket.
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Hi Bolstermanic, The handle is smaller than the UKPK.Bolstermanic wrote:Not for me, thanks. I don't want to carry any more handle than I have to. I think big handles on carry knives simply make for higher profiles that attract the attention of anti-knife people. I like everything about the ParaMilitary except for that out-sized handle, so I won't own one.
In our meets and shows, where many knife "afi's" had an opportunity to handle the Urban and give us feedback, it was determined that the handle was a tad short for most adult hands and needed about 1/4" more in length to be controllable and comfortable.
I would like to thank those in the meets and shows for their input.
After adding the length to the handle, the blade needed another 1/8" in length. I'm not a big fan of handl/blade length issues, but in this case, I felt the customer would be happier with a better balance.
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caly4 / urban suggestions
Hi Sal,
I wanted to emphasize my personal desire for two features which I'm sure have already been discussed.
1. ZDP-189. One would hope that the experience you've gained working with this steel along with the decreased blade length would result in a decrease in cost compared to the caly3-zdp model. Have you tried bead-blast wrt the corrosion issues? If this is an effective way to protect the blade, a black version would not only be beautiful, it would probably be easier to 'touch-up' than the 420j laminate.
2. Given that the Caly3 is 'perfect', I would like to see one of the newer lock designs (such as the compression lock) on the caly4.
Can't wait for more news!
I wanted to emphasize my personal desire for two features which I'm sure have already been discussed.
1. ZDP-189. One would hope that the experience you've gained working with this steel along with the decreased blade length would result in a decrease in cost compared to the caly3-zdp model. Have you tried bead-blast wrt the corrosion issues? If this is an effective way to protect the blade, a black version would not only be beautiful, it would probably be easier to 'touch-up' than the 420j laminate.
2. Given that the Caly3 is 'perfect', I would like to see one of the newer lock designs (such as the compression lock) on the caly4.
Can't wait for more news!
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Welcome to the forums, boxcornersdiety! Kick off your shoes and stay a bit, and even though this is "Sal's livingroom" feet are allowed on the coffee table :Dboxcornersdiety wrote:1. ZDP-189. One would hope that the experience you've gained working with this steel along with the decreased blade length would result in a decrease in cost compared to the caly3-zdp model. Have you tried bead-blast wrt the corrosion issues? If this is an effective way to protect the blade, a black version would not only be beautiful, it would probably be easier to 'touch-up' than the 420j laminate.
I'm still learning about the corrosive tendencies of ZDP in the context of things other than citric acid and prolonged exposure to dishwater :rolleyes: but I'd be willing to bet that a bead blast finish would not only be more time consuming to do than other softer steels but allow more surface area on the faces of the blade which in turn would create a greater potential for corrosion.
So far as a black version of the blade, it sounds aesthetically interesting, but part of the appeal of the C4/Urban is presumably to seem "benign" in nature and black seems to carry with it a menacing context that police officers might frown upon.
Make no mistake, though, ZDP is an absolutely amazing steel, and Sal and friends have made excellent use of it thus far. They may one day try different coatings or finishes, but this is just my own thought on the matter.
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Hi Boxcornersdiety,
As mentioned, bead blasting would increase corrosion and blackening would not be in the "spirit" of the model (NKP friendly).
on question #2, the maker than makes the Caly3 doesn't do compression locks. Compresssion locks are very difficult to make and require sophisticated CNC equipment to do in production. We're working on a 2.5" linerlock carbon fiber model, but it's a long way off.
Hey Majidoc, is that 2" limit in the city?
sal
As mentioned, bead blasting would increase corrosion and blackening would not be in the "spirit" of the model (NKP friendly).
on question #2, the maker than makes the Caly3 doesn't do compression locks. Compresssion locks are very difficult to make and require sophisticated CNC equipment to do in production. We're working on a 2.5" linerlock carbon fiber model, but it's a long way off.
Hey Majidoc, is that 2" limit in the city?
sal
