How about taking one of the Salt line, say an Atlantic Salt or Salt I and adding a lockable marlinspike on the other end? For those of you landlubbers out there wondering what a marlinspike is, it is a large spike used for splicing line (rope), prying apart seized knots, and opening/locking shackles. While A.G. Russell makes one (no clip), paying $275 for something that will be used/abused as a tool is silly. Myerchin makes some nice ones also but they have small thumb holes, plastic clips, and carry tip down.
Anyway, just a suggestion for those of us who work on or near the water.
A suggested addition to the Salt line....
Thanx FedRich,
Welcome to the Spyderco forum.
The question is far more complicated than you might think. If we put it on the spine of the handle, it will block the lock and unlockinbg would be difficult.
Would the spike lock? what type of lock?
Our "tusk" designwas quite nice, and very well received but our H1 maker couldn't make it.
We would like to add one to the line, but design and engineering to do it properly, is time consuming. It is on the back burner, and we thank you for your request.
FWIW, Eric and I are both sailors, so we understand.
sal
Welcome to the Spyderco forum.
The question is far more complicated than you might think. If we put it on the spine of the handle, it will block the lock and unlockinbg would be difficult.
Would the spike lock? what type of lock?
Our "tusk" designwas quite nice, and very well received but our H1 maker couldn't make it.
We would like to add one to the line, but design and engineering to do it properly, is time consuming. It is on the back burner, and we thank you for your request.
FWIW, Eric and I are both sailors, so we understand.
sal
Sal,
Thanks for the welcome and the response. I had posted it as food for thought and didn't expect the man himself to answer, very impressive. Difficult design indeed, seems like some of those I have seen use a liner lock for the blade and a lanyard loop/lock for the spike.
In the meanwhile, I will look to buy one of the Salt line and wait patiently.
Its been quite awhile since I heard nothing but wind in the rigging; most of my time underway is spent on something powered by twin Cat turbo diesels or outboards. Thanks again.
Thanks for the welcome and the response. I had posted it as food for thought and didn't expect the man himself to answer, very impressive. Difficult design indeed, seems like some of those I have seen use a liner lock for the blade and a lanyard loop/lock for the spike.
In the meanwhile, I will look to buy one of the Salt line and wait patiently.
Its been quite awhile since I heard nothing but wind in the rigging; most of my time underway is spent on something powered by twin Cat turbo diesels or outboards. Thanks again.
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Sal,
As a regular sailor on my side of the pond I have discovered how useful the hawkbill on my Tasman can be.
Not familiar with knife engineering, but the use of a marlinspike may involve great stress on the pivot (kind of prying) which would seem to me incompatible with the lightness of FRN in Salt serie.
However, for the locking you may want to have a look at the Wichard folders. Bulky, don't know the steel but to me perfect complement to the Tasman. And it glows in the dark :D
As a regular sailor on my side of the pond I have discovered how useful the hawkbill on my Tasman can be.
Not familiar with knife engineering, but the use of a marlinspike may involve great stress on the pivot (kind of prying) which would seem to me incompatible with the lightness of FRN in Salt serie.
However, for the locking you may want to have a look at the Wichard folders. Bulky, don't know the steel but to me perfect complement to the Tasman. And it glows in the dark :D
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre!
Gal. P. Bosquet, 25th Oct 1854
Gal. P. Bosquet, 25th Oct 1854
FedRich- what do you do for a living? out of curiosity of course. :)
I have carried rigging style knives at work in the past and never used the folding spike for splicing. I found it handy for untangling backlashed fishing reels when I worked on a party boat. now, for smaller diameter rope, a marlinespike or fid isn't necessary as they are usually laid up loosely enough to use fingers. for heavier, larger diameter rope, I normally use a screwdriver. I prefer the leverage offered by a longer spike. plus, every boat has a screwdriver on it
I don't think that on larger ropes, with a metal handled knife, the pivot would give, but I can see it happening on an FRN handled knife. especially with 1" + diameters.
stay safe out there
pete
I have carried rigging style knives at work in the past and never used the folding spike for splicing. I found it handy for untangling backlashed fishing reels when I worked on a party boat. now, for smaller diameter rope, a marlinespike or fid isn't necessary as they are usually laid up loosely enough to use fingers. for heavier, larger diameter rope, I normally use a screwdriver. I prefer the leverage offered by a longer spike. plus, every boat has a screwdriver on it
I don't think that on larger ropes, with a metal handled knife, the pivot would give, but I can see it happening on an FRN handled knife. especially with 1" + diameters.
stay safe out there
pete
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I generally used a marlinspike for splicing eyes in single braided line (polypro, nylon, etc.), especially older, tighter line. Seemed to help work the braid loose. For double braided nylon, only a fid would do for splicing eyes to make mooring lines. Splicing double braid was a practical factor to be a Boatswain's Mate in the Coast Guard. Good thing West Marine sells lines with eyes already spliced in them :)
I generally used a marlinspike for splicing eyes in single braided line (polypro, nylon, etc.), especially older, tighter line. Seemed to help work the braid loose. For double braided nylon, only a fid would do for splicing eyes to make mooring lines. Splicing double braid was a practical factor to be a Boatswain's Mate in the Coast Guard. Good thing West Marine sells lines with eyes already spliced in them :)
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Heck, one could take picture of such a knife on a pile of camo with a knotted hemp rope and run an add for the new Tusk from Byrd, complete with tactical marlin spike. Any name with the word spike is bound to increase sales to the Mall Ninja types. Heck with them, if they don't know it is for fixing ropes. :D
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the spyderco knife is sharp. I'm not. I'm curious. PM me if you don't want to post on a public forum. I have some guesses :D
When I buy pre-spliced line from west marine I pull the splice out and redo it. they don't put enough tucks in and the eye is never the size I need :)
plus, working around the water, splicing is a good skill to have.
the spyderco knife is sharp. I'm not.
I'm curious. PM me if you don't want to post on a public forum. I have some guesses :D When I buy pre-spliced line from west marine I pull the splice out and redo it. they don't put enough tucks in and the eye is never the size I need :)
plus, working around the water, splicing is a good skill to have.
It's a good idea to have a marlinspike on a spydie.
I am also a sailor, and I can tell you this, if you use a sharp knife for splicing or something, it is going wrong eventually. I stabbed myself in my thumb
But do you need a lock on it? Can't you use the spike itself as the handle? So that you don't get forces on the pivot area?
I am also a sailor, and I can tell you this, if you use a sharp knife for splicing or something, it is going wrong eventually. I stabbed myself in my thumb
But do you need a lock on it? Can't you use the spike itself as the handle? So that you don't get forces on the pivot area?
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PM sent. I agree that the eyes are never sized correctly. They must think that the only cleat out there are the tiny pop-up kind on rec boats.Pete1977 wrote:I'm curious. PM me if you don't want to post on a public forum. I have some guesses :D
When I buy pre-spliced line from west marine I pull the splice out and redo it. they don't put enough tucks in and the eye is never the size I need :)
Interesting ideal Tom, but then it may be awkward for EDC. What is interesting is that on most traditional marlinspike knives, the spike is the only thing that locks.
I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull’s way and the whale’s way where the wind’s like a whetted knife
John Masefield
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I have an idea. What if the end of the handle would be the marlin spike? So that it is a bit longer than normal, one inch or so, than ends pointy? maybe with a steel point in it?
Just an idea...
Just an idea...
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Yes, something like that. Not to pointy of course. Here is a drawing:
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Scout, that was one of two ways we carried issue marlinspikes, either in a belt pouch or using the spike as a clip. Another common accessory was a monkey's fist lanyard.
I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull’s way and the whale’s way where the wind’s like a whetted knife
John Masefield
To the gull’s way and the whale’s way where the wind’s like a whetted knife
John Masefield
I've been working on some drawings that would use the clip as the marline spike. The design has the spike rotating up 90 degrees. If anyone has a fax, I will send it to be posted. send the number to me by e-mail houlroyd@aol.com ,boats
