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Titanium Herbst Prices

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I am in dire need of some direction on how much to spend on a C53 German made Titanium Herbst. I have looked it over with a fine tooth comb and it seems to be top quality, good fit and finish, no notch, no scuffs, tight lock-up, no blade play, etc. etc. The blade is numbered 400 and the knife is mint. Now I've heard of the QC issues with this particular model but this one doesn't appear to have any. Did I miss anything? The big question with me is how much is this one worth? I don't have any reference point to go by, I don't know how much they retailed for and I haven't seen any on Ebay except for notched ones. Any Help would be much appreciated. Deacon..........Zen...........Anybody??
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Hey Felly...have seen them for about $100.00-135.00

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I have a dealer who sells the aluminum for about $85 if that helps. I would say $100-135 is a good offer.
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Puyallupknifegu wrote:Hey Felly...have seen them for about $100.00-135.00

:D

PM me. :D


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I've seen them go for $150-200 on Ebay withing the last 12 or so months. They don't come up often though. You occasionally see one of the notched 2nds that Sal sold to the forum guys several years ago and even those go for in excess of $100 plus.
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Well, If anybody have a mint Ti. PE one without the notch...
Let me know if it's for sale :D

I'd go for that one, Fellyjr. Especially if it's in a low pricerange (Below the 180$)
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I don't know where you guys are getting these prices under $200 :confused: for the Ti Herbst. I personally haven't seen one sell for under $205 for over a year.

I will say this: if you can get an original, factory first, Real McCoy, Titanium Peter Herbst model for below $200 I would say you better jump on it if you like that model. I'm not a big fan of the Herbst myself but that knife has the potential of being a Super Classic Collector piece for 3 reasons.
#1 Few in numbers
#2 very few of the ones that were bought haven't already been used
#3 I believe that every Titanium Spyder ( including the Salsa) has Collector/Classic written all over it.

If I saw a Titanium Peter Herbst for under $150 I would take $$ out of my savings to get it. And I normally don't do that.
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NGK has the combo edge one for $99. It says it's a Titanium handle.

Says 5 are in stock.
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David Lowry wrote:NGK has the combo edge one for $99. It says it's a Titanium handle.

Says 5 are in stock.
Looks like the Japanese almite handles to me...

The Ti model also has 440C unless there is some ultra rare variety, that I don't know about. ;)
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[quote="zenheretic"]Looks like the Japanese almite handles to me...

The Ti model also has 440C unless there is some ultra rare variety, that I don't know about. ]Yep, definitely the Almite version. The lack of blue coloring in the grooves throws up a red flag, but from what I've heard is not definitive as there may be a few Ti Herbsts that lack it. However, it is certainly good reason to be VERY suspicious of a "Ti Herbst" claim and to take a very close look at the rest of the knife. Aside from the blade pivot, the Ti Herbst used are pinned construction, and the pins are completely invisible. For that reason the presence or lack of screws in the handle is my primary "quick identifier" for Herbsts. In addition to that, the Ti version also used a somewhat smaller flat headed pivot screw with the torx fitting on the left side of the knife. The handle construction alone is enough to postively ID the one in NGK's picture as Seki made. The ATS-55 marking on the blade offers additional confirmation, because, as you said, the German ones were all 440C.
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Here's the real McCoy.
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Thanks everybody for the info and numbers on the Ti Herbst and to steve for the nice pic :cool: I know now what my best offer will be for this piece and hopefully I'll be able to stick to my guns on it :confused: Thanks again!!
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Zenheretic and Paul,

Thanks for the clarification. I'm always learning. ;)
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Here is a few more pics I've had laying around of Herbsts
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and a few more (all are Ti pics so far)
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And the Japanese version
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Please try to ignore the horror known as the BRK :o
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The Ti is darned pretty but I never knew they were 440C!!!

And what does that BRK mean on your Native eh?
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Zac wrote:The Ti is darned pretty but I never knew they were 440C!!!

And what does that BRK mean on your Native eh?
Ah, the infamous BRK Native. You need to read this, Zac. :D
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The Deacon wrote:Ah, the infamous BRK Native. You need to read this, Zac. :D
D'Oh! I didn't IBTD on that one. :D

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The Deacon wrote:Ah, the infamous BRK Native. You need to read this, Zac. :D
I was guessing Blue Ridge but I always wondered why Spyderco used 440A over Gin 1 plus the unusual spine...now I know. Thanks!
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Further C-53 considerations

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Zac wrote:I was guessing Blue Ridge but I always wondered why Spyderco used 440A over Gin 1 plus the unusual spine...now I know. Thanks!
Zac there are some considerations you are overlooking concerning the Titanium Peter Herbst model. First of all the knife was a collaboration with BOKER of Germany in the same kind of deal that Spyderco had with Kershaw when they did the Spyker.

With that being said you have to deduct that BOKER who used a lot of 440C ( not 440A) it's only logical that they would use bar stock that they already had on hand.

I see where you are coming from though because that was on the tail end of the GIN-1 era in which Spyderco made a lot of their popular models.

I have had 2 of the Ti Herbst. They are a quality blade in my opinion but I am just not a fan of Peter Herbst blade designs. But the Titanium Herbst as with most other Titanium Spyders will surely pay a nice dividend down the road
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