Hijacked with knives & boxcutters???
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Hijacked with knives & boxcutters???
Just heard a blurb that the "Pentagon aircraft" may have been hijacked with simple knives and boxcutters. What do you suppose this means for us?
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It might be just me but I can not see how three people can possibiy hold fifty or sixty people at bay with letter openers and knives.Looks like several passengers would gang up and try to fight.
I hate to think that most people really are becoming sheep.
As far as knives go the press may have a new bandwagon to climb on....I HOPE NOT!!
Please don't let this offend but if it was me I would try to do something instead of sitting still and taking what they had to give.
J Smith
I hate to think that most people really are becoming sheep.
As far as knives go the press may have a new bandwagon to climb on....I HOPE NOT!!
Please don't let this offend but if it was me I would try to do something instead of sitting still and taking what they had to give.
J Smith
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I could think of alot of things on a jet that could be used.
trays as shilds
make your own knife from a broken bottle or glass
and surely some passengers had pocket knives that passed inspection.
and if i was the hijacker I would hate to see 20 unarmed people rushing twoard me even with me having a knife.
J Smith
trays as shilds
make your own knife from a broken bottle or glass
and surely some passengers had pocket knives that passed inspection.
and if i was the hijacker I would hate to see 20 unarmed people rushing twoard me even with me having a knife.
J Smith
From what we have heard from the newsroom here halfway across the world in Hong Kong is that the US aviation officials are already starting to think about a review of carry policy and are thinking of a carry ban.
Don't blame the media, because quite a few journalists (except me) carry knives as we all do. the rest just want to look for a good story.
it would be our worse nightmare if the international aviation authorities decide to move against knives carrying in planes.
Don't blame the media, because quite a few journalists (except me) carry knives as we all do. the rest just want to look for a good story.
it would be our worse nightmare if the international aviation authorities decide to move against knives carrying in planes.
Sal might have a point here,but how do you in a security point of you distiguish between the good guy and the bad.
bare in mind there is no precident of a highjacked plane being used as a guided missile like that! up till now planes were highjacked for hostages and the main thing everyone was concearned was to get it SAFELY to the ground and then negotiate.. if people knew that they have nothing to lose it is very possible that the passengers could do something about it.
after yesterday im sure that any potential terrorist with a knife will not get very far in the plane.
scorpio.
bare in mind there is no precident of a highjacked plane being used as a guided missile like that! up till now planes were highjacked for hostages and the main thing everyone was concearned was to get it SAFELY to the ground and then negotiate.. if people knew that they have nothing to lose it is very possible that the passengers could do something about it.
after yesterday im sure that any potential terrorist with a knife will not get very far in the plane.
scorpio.
As far as knife carry on ANY airplanes that just went up in smoke!! We have now joined the gun owners.
As to what could have happend by a citizen determined to stop a hijacker I think we all saw an act of
heroism in the plane that crashed in Penn. I can stop felling that few folk's told the hijackers "We die
here, we die now. You can't take anymore of my countrymen" but we'll never know for sure. They
may have been able to overcome the basic fear of being badly cut. We all want to be safe but know the
catch 22 is how to do it with out a means to.
As to what could have happend by a citizen determined to stop a hijacker I think we all saw an act of
heroism in the plane that crashed in Penn. I can stop felling that few folk's told the hijackers "We die
here, we die now. You can't take anymore of my countrymen" but we'll never know for sure. They
may have been able to overcome the basic fear of being badly cut. We all want to be safe but know the
catch 22 is how to do it with out a means to.
Is it really the worst that you may no longer be permitted to carry you knife on an airplane? Their prohibition on flights will in my opinion remove at least one potential weapon. I too have always viewed a folding penknife as a tool and i well understand peoples reactions to this threat to their abilty to lawfully carry. Is it likely though that if the rumour scenario about being armed with knives IS true, would these terrorists have been lawfully carrying aswell? unfortunately i think they would have been.
I have been sickened by these acts. I give my deepest sympathy to all those who have been affected by it, directly and indirectly, and commend those who are responding to assist, and to those who have died doing so.
I have been sickened by these acts. I give my deepest sympathy to all those who have been affected by it, directly and indirectly, and commend those who are responding to assist, and to those who have died doing so.
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I wonder how long it will take untill all sharp objects, and glass, will be ban from fligh? Then will it come down to a "prison" plane that busses people from one airport to the next.
A quote from first class: "You mean I don't HAVE to wear the handcuffs?"
I'm sorry but I am just a bit angry at our rignts being stomped on. I do know that I have a right to defend myself. Maybe if everyone on the plain were required to carry a 3-4" knife the highjackers would have though twice?
Besides that you know that if they, the bad people, try hard enough they will still get knives and such on the plain.
Some laws permit, what honor dose not.
A quote from first class: "You mean I don't HAVE to wear the handcuffs?"
I'm sorry but I am just a bit angry at our rignts being stomped on. I do know that I have a right to defend myself. Maybe if everyone on the plain were required to carry a 3-4" knife the highjackers would have though twice?
Besides that you know that if they, the bad people, try hard enough they will still get knives and such on the plain.
Some laws permit, what honor dose not.
Means the knife community just got kicked in the balls. I've heard that ALL knives will be banned from now on (on board planes) the question now is for those of you who fly are you willing to risk what will no doubt be considerable retrobution for carrying your knife on board for personal protection?
Side note: didn't we ban hannibal? just wondering
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Side note: didn't we ban hannibal? just wondering
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Well except knives for self defence purpose people could still carry other weapons in disguise. But I still get my peace of mind with at least one folder with me on any flight.
A friend of mine did say something interesting yesterday, that if knives are banned people would start taking other things that could easily be adopted as weapons.
He said for example, a buggy (of course you have to have a kid with you in that case) could yield at least two to three modified short spears (from the frame, sharpened in advance) which would be extremely effective in drawing blood from human body.
banning knives carrying would only encourage people start thinking of things like this...
A friend of mine did say something interesting yesterday, that if knives are banned people would start taking other things that could easily be adopted as weapons.
He said for example, a buggy (of course you have to have a kid with you in that case) could yield at least two to three modified short spears (from the frame, sharpened in advance) which would be extremely effective in drawing blood from human body.
banning knives carrying would only encourage people start thinking of things like this...
