Al Zarqawi Dead!

WORKER#9 · #1

that is all!

Fred Sanford · #2

While I'm glad they got him, I am really not sure the difference it will make.

I wish it were different but I really don't know.

I'm not at all suggesting that we shouldn't have got him, as I think we should and I'm glad we did. I just don't think it will stop anything.

brainus · #3

When do military air strikes become political assassination?

psimonl · #4

The morning of September 11, 2001, we entered a new area. And historically, an area lasts at least a couple of decades, if not century...

There are only officers among terrorists, but no leader that, once killed, will leave the others no other choice but run away and hide.

It is easier to hate than understand. This apply to both camps...

Simon

CopilotATS-55 · #5

**** Yes :D

spydermdz · #6

Praise the Lord. the real Lord, Jesus Christ.

Edited***

HoB · #7

As much as this satisfies some of my personal hunger for revenge I would have to agree with psimonl: In the big picture only an insignificant triumph.

spydermdz wrote: Edited***

And shouts like this make me very sure that there will never be peace in my lifetime. Makes me very sad. Not to mention that I think it shows imaturity on several levels: to wish someone dead requires first the acceptance that he/it exsists. Also, I am sure that the terrorists flying into the WTC were dying with a similar call on their lips. Is it really necessary to stoop to the same level?

smcfalls13 · #8

spydermdz wrote:Edited***

Please don't make the mistake of condemning all Muslims because of the actions of a few misguided individuals. It's not fair to make comments like this, there are plenty of upstanding Muslim people, both in this country and abroad.

I understand you're trying to be patriotic, but the problem with patriotism is that there is a point where it becomes fanatacism. Be careful with such comments, because I see little difference between fanatic patriotism and terrorism. To them, we're the terrorist, and they're the patriots.

It all depends on your perspective.

StuntZombie · #9

Don't believe for a second that his death is going to make a difference. The thing about tyrants, and "terrorists", is that there is always someone to take their place.

#10

Edited posts as needed...I'm hoping this thread will go somewhere good. Please keep it civil... and it will stay open...

This is a heated discussion, but there is no need to add fuel to the fire here.

Thanks!

Kristi

smcfalls13 · #11

TazKristi wrote:Edited posts as needed...I'm hoping this thread will go somewhere good. Please keep it civil... and it will stay open...

This is a heated discussion, but there is no need to add fuel to the fire here.

Thanks!

Kristi

Thank you Kristi.

Jimd · #12

Will it make a huge difference? Maybe not.

Then again, what's a better suggestion? Should we not kill these vermin? Should we hope that they'll suddenly or eventually grow weary of killing us? That is not going to happen.

I do not consider animals like Zarqawi to be human, and believe they should be exterminated, and that we're on the right track by doing so. If they stayed "over there", it would be another matter entirely. However, I'm sure that if the 3,000 or so people that were barbequed in the World Trade Centers could testify, they'd agree that the enemy is bringing the fight to us, and reciprocating is the only way to pre-emptively and positively react.

Vincent · #13

show me a body then il belive it.

spydermdz · #14

i am sorry that my angst for people that hate you and want your wives and husbands dead and would slit the throats of your kids.. i am sorry i apologize. are you kidding me. this is not civil. zarqawi was NOT a human. he is scum. he deserves to burn in ****. and if that is editted, man, this forum isnt an advocate of the 1st amendment, thats for sure.. how can you take up for someone who saws off the heads of innocent americans! how! and to say that all muslims arent the same... they all believe in the koran. the koran preaches DEATH TO THE INFIDEL. if you dont know, the infidel is YOU and i. anyone who isnt Muslim. how can someone that believes that be considered civil or respected? i am not going to post anymore in this thread because it is obvious that people cannot speak what they feel. i guarantee it that if a muslim or arab came in here and said things like, zarqawi is a martyr, and similiar bullshit, no one would edit his post. because **** like that is called "free speech." i just think that editting things that people post that dont threaten others (threatening as in personal safety) shouldnt be editted. i made no threats to anyone. i just stated my opinion and i should have the right to do that. if this offends any of the mods, i am sorry but this is a topic that really pisses me off.

Cameron23 · #15

I think it is interesting (and telling) that there are/were people demonstrating on both sides in the Mid-East because of this. Some in Jordan marking him as a Martyr and others (Bagdad for example) celebrating that he is no longer around.

I've been doing quite a bit a research on this lately (as I do) and for all intents and purposes everyone agrees that there will never be "peace" in the Middle East. Only periods where people are too afraid to retaliate for whatever misdeeds have been done to them (and over there...everyone has had misdeeds done to them), usually when there is a powerful (and ruthless) dictator figure in control. This is not to say that Saddam H. should not have been removed from power, etc., etc. But figures like Saddam will always look for and achieve power in this part of the world... unfortunately it's just the way the world works over there.

I won't go into the whole "we did it for oil" vs. "we did it because it was the right thing to do and no one else would" debate, as there really is no nice and neat answer to these debates.

I will say that I thank God (capital "G" in whatever book you read...if you read one) that I live in a country where I do not have to worry on a day-to-day basis whether or not a bomb will blow up on my block, or if a group of men from a different part of my same religion will decide that I am somehow a threat to their way of life. And that I worry for those that do. I worry for both their safety and the fact that the environment in which they were born into and live often propigates itself.

Here's to hoping....

C :spyder:

Fred Sanford · #16

Jimd wrote:Will it make a huge difference? Maybe not.

Then again, what's a better suggestion? Should we not kill these vermin? Should we hope that they'll suddenly or eventually grow weary of killing us? That is not going to happen.

I do not consider animals like Zarqawi to be human, and believe they should be exterminated, and that we're on the right track by doing so. If they stayed "over there", it would be another matter entirely. However, I'm sure that if the 3,000 or so people that were barbequed in the World Trade Centers could testify, they'd agree that the enemy is bringing the fight to us, and reciprocating is the only way to pre-emptively and positively react.

Very well said. I have to agree with that.

Jimd · #17

Vincent wrote:show me a body then il belive it.

Photos are posted on AOL news and other news. I'm not sure it would be practical to ship the stinking carcass for you to inspect. :D

I wish they'd stuff him with pig innards and hang him from a pole in the desert for the other sub-humans to see until his carcass rots and is no more.

Want to fight us? Want to murder our families? Want to barbeque our countrymen? Want to slowly cut innocent, peaceful americans' heads off on video? Then face the wrath.

I believe in the "Live and Let Live" policy, until someone makes war with us. And then I believe the gloves should come off.

There is no civilized way to fight a war. Trying to be nice while fighting a war is insanity and denial at it's finest. Fight to win, fight to get it over with as quickly as possible, so hopefully peace can be resumed.

Vincent · #18

This guy was Nobody, not a big deal if ya ask me
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 90_pf.html

BlackNinja · #19

Vincent wrote:This guy was Nobody, not a big deal if ya ask me
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 90_pf.html

I'm with you, Vincent! How many times have we captured or killed the "number 2 or 3 guy" now? :rolleyes:

smcfalls13 · #20

spydermdz wrote:how can you take up for someone who saws off the heads of innocent americans! how! and to say that all muslims arent the same... they all believe in the koran. the koran preaches DEATH TO THE INFIDEL.

No. It doesn't. The Koran actually preaches tolerance for other religions, much like other monotheistic religions. ALL religions claim theirs is the true one, and often have passages in their holy scriptures which basically take pot shots against other religions. It's engineered into the religion to gather followers with either benefits or threats, depending on the religion.

spydermdz wrote:i guarantee it that if a muslim or arab came in here and said things like, zarqawi is a martyr, and similiar bullshit, no one would edit his post. because **** like that is called "free speech." i just think that editting things that people post that dont threaten others (threatening as in personal safety) shouldnt be editted.

First of all, Zarqawi IS a Martyr, he died for a cause he believes in, and his death will breed more terrorism. That is a martyr in my book. I don't like the fact that he is, but I can't change it.

Your comment wasn't threatening, but it was extremely offensive. Put it in perspective and insert whatever deity you worship, how would you feel?

spydermdz wrote:i made no threats to anyone. i just stated my opinion and i should have the right to do that. if this offends any of the mods, i am sorry but this is a topic that really pisses me off.

No, you didn't make any threats to anyone, you just made a blanket statement that affected all members of the Muslim faith.

You have the right to state your opinion, and I agree with the spirit of your post, but I disagree with how you expressed it.

I understand this topic pisses you off, it pisses all of us off. I bet not a single one of us here doesn't want everyone of those b******s dead, but if we start attacking every member of that faith, we are no different than they are.

Terrorists kill anyone who serves their purpose, even non violent by-standers. If we start making blanket statements like yours, what's to stop us from saying "Oh it's just a Muslim, he must be a terrorist, let's kill him anyway"

Than we become the terrorists.

Basically, what I'm saying is kill those who would kill us, but leave the others be.