nasty slash wounds (warning graphic)

zenheretic · #1

link to other forum; note some claim it was an LEO, others claim an inmate either way... :eek:

http://www.jungletraining.com/forums/sh ... eadid=3159

Ging · #2

that is nasty, i am shocked the guys didn't die

respect to all LEO everywhere that have to deal with this every day, my heart goes out to you and your families.

severedthumbs · #3

its just a little flesh wound. :eek:

this reminds me why I will never get into a bladed fight with anyone. If I can't shoot the person well then I am running.

java · #4

Avulsion patterns on the neck and bruising on the back are interesting. He looks as if he was on the ground or up against a tree or something defending himself. Wounds are not in extremely vascular areas and no major vessels were severed - minimal blood loss for extent of injuries. They also appear to need very little debridement. Knife was fairly sharp - clean wound edges - so wounds should sew up easily and it had a fairly short blade length. Luckily his attacker did not know how to use a knife effectively.

Now the poster who machete'd his foot, on the other hand..........

J

TheKnifeCollector · #5

OUCHY comes to mind!!

224477 · #6

java wrote:Avulsion patterns on the neck and bruising on the back are interesting. He looks as if he was on the ground or up against a tree or something defending himself. Wounds are not in extremely vascular areas and no major vessels were severed - minimal blood loss for extent of injuries. They also appear to need very little debridement. Knife was fairly sharp - clean wound edges - so wounds should sew up easily and it had a fairly short blade length. Luckily his attacker did not know how to use a knife effectively.

Now the poster who machete'd his foot, on the other hand..........

J

Interesting conclusions Java, I would like to know your job, are you a coroner?
Pathologist?

severedthumbs · #7

java wrote:Avulsion patterns on the neck and bruising on the back are interesting. He looks as if he was on the ground or up against a tree or something defending himself.

J

looks like marks from laying on the gurny.?

Michael Cook · #8

:spyder: None of those wounds were to defang the snake target areas. had those wounds been delivered to the biceps triceps or quadriceps the cuts would've been much more fight stoppingly effective. :spyder:

224477 · #9

Michael Cook wrote: :spyder: None of those wounds were to defang the snake target areas. had those wounds been delivered to the biceps triceps or quadriceps the cuts would've been much more fight stoppingly effective. :spyder:

And if they were, the guy would use his hands again only with a big amount of luck..

java · #10

224477 wrote:Interesting conclusions Java, I would like to know your job, are you a coroner?
Pathologist?

No. But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night! :D

Thanks for thinking that but I've been an EMT for almost 20 years, and seen people brought in and survive incredible injuries. I also read pathology and forensic books for leisure. I highly recommend DeMaio's Gunshot Wounds: Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques or Forensic Pathology to see how some sound reasoning is applied investigating wound dynamics and results. The first book also gives a fascinating brief history of firearms development and wound ballistics.

Coroner or ME would be a dream job for me. Alas java is getting a little long in the tooth - shooting for a forensic nurse is more realistic for the likes of this one. :o

You and Mike are 100% on his luck and ability to retain use of his hands. What I find curious is a lack of defensive wounds on the extremities - unless the photo series only portrayed the torso wounds...... His head appears to be bandaged as well so maybe we don't see the full extent of injury. Those are pit avulsions on the back of his neck and abrasions on his back. Unless the Marquis de Sade designs their gurneys, no EMS or ER caused them.

J

Dr. Snubnose · #11

Like Java said...Lucky for the guy that his attacker didn't know how to use his knife......Doc :eek:

HoB · #12

OMG!! :eek:

I am not sure if I would agree that he didn't know how to use a knife. Maybe he didn't want to kill. After all he delivered 5 slashes into 3 destinctly different body zones. I would figure, the attacker never had formal training, but was used to knife street fights...

My old Wing Tsung teacher disarmed a guy with a knife. He had only two 1" long wounds on the left forarm. I don't know how the attacker looked afterwards....I don't think I want to know :D .

spydutch · #13

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

That man is lucky to be still alive...

Mr Blonde · #14

To the EMT's on this forum, you think these pics are real? Somehow they look a bit fake to me. Thankfully I never saw any such wounds for real.

Wouter

severedthumbs · #15

after having worked with many victims of knife related injuries, these are definately real.

Senate · #16

Mr Blonde wrote:To the EMT's on this forum, you think these pics are real? Somehow they look a bit fake to me. Thankfully I never saw any such wounds for real.

Wouter

Even if I'm not an EMT, I've seen enough gore around the net to say that they do look real to me... ouch! :eek:

Jim Malone · #17

The knife used was probably not a shank or shiv but a razorblade (broken out of a safety razor) melted into a tootbrush or another improvised handle.

These are typical low depth slashing wounds. Although they look bad, they aren't as dangerous as puncture wounds.

The afflicted wounds where probably a form of punishment instead of a lethal attack.

The fact that the wound channels are straight ment they guy was either pinned down or was limited in his movement during the attack.

psimonl · #18

I really wonder how come he has one chest wound, but 3 large in the back? two attackers?

Could it be a punishment because he rat someone? 2 minutes alone in a cell with the king of the yard? Would that explain no defense wounds? I really don't know much about prison ???

Oh, I give the usual OUCH to the pictures!!!

Simon

Cameron23 · #19

I've seen this pic before. I can't remember the backstory, but whatever. Look like standard "slasher" cuts from a razor slash-attack (just as Jim said).

Unfortunately this is standard prison stuff for retribution for some perceived wrong. First cut was probably the chest. Second maybe right side (though this may have been a parting gift). The remaining cuts on the back most likely from when the guy turtled-up.

I've seen some bad slasher attack photos where fellas got their faces "done."

Bad Ju-Ju.

C :spyder:

zenheretic · #20

I got this off of Bladeforums "practical tactical section". Like Wouter, several there thought it looked a bit fake, while others felt even if it was faked, it was real enough for training purposes...hard to say but like many others said, "ouchy".