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soon to be discontinued???

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:eek: Ok here is a thread thought...not to palatable but possibly interesting.

With all the soon to be released models, I would expect to see some others get discontinued. The dodo is at risk for extinction and the Temperance is almost a sure thing...anyone have any other info or care to speculate? If speculation, please say why you think they will pull the plug on that model. :eek:
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The suspense is killing me, Kristi said she'd let us know what's being discontinued in october, and we're getting close to the end, so we should know in the next few weeks.

SAVE THE DODO!

I remember hearing the Temp will be gone next year, but that's the only one I recall hearing about. But considering how many new models are coming out(Tasman Salt, Adventura, Volpe etc), something's gotta take early retirement.

Perhaps the Schempp fixed blade will replace the Temp ;)

I would imagine several clipits would be replaced this coming year, but I really can't think of any that scream "get rid of me"

I'm at a loss.
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Aloha guys,

I agree with Scott. Possibly to make room for newer models...Other than that, perhaps it will be *improved* upon? (How THAT is possible, I don't know either!)

To echo Michael Cook since he ain't here right now:


Save the Dodo!



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If it isn't too late, the only way to save the dodo would be to buy more and buy often... :D :p
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Does it count if I stand on street corners and tell passers buy to "Save the Dodo" ;)

For the last month I've been trying to get all of my coworkers to buy Dodos as replacements for those horrible disposable box cutteres. It's slowly working, I just hope the Dodo doesn't become extinct after I tell everyone to get one.

I'll say it again, just for fun.

SAVE THE DODO.
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Yeah there seems to be a lot of uninformed "box breaker downers" in the world that don't know the benefits of a good Dodo. :p

When I worked in a campus kitchen and had to break down boxes, I found a good punch, fist hammer, or if I felt particularly spunky a spear hand punch to the underbelly of a box usually broke the the tape or glue faster than messing with a knife, but that was me and I didn't have to do it for 8 hours straight. :D

Anyway save the Dodo!
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In the end the "reason" is almost always lack of sales. Have no figures to back any of this up, but my guesses would be...

CF version will be the Harpy's swan song

79mm Rescue dropped, or at least cut back to a single color

Catcherman will get deep sixed

Spydersaw

Stainless Native

Cento 3 - replaced by the Cento 4.

Impala

Stainless Kiwi

D'Allara Rescue - replaced by Drop Point

Dodo

Yojimbo

Scorpius

Vagabond

Temperance

Temperance Trainer

K04, K05 and K09 Kitchen Sharps
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zenheretic wrote:When I worked in a campus kitchen and had to break down boxes, I found a good punch, fist hammer, or if I felt particularly spunky a spear hand punch to the underbelly of a box usually broke the the tape or glue faster than messing with a knife, but that was me and I didn't have to do it for 8 hours straight. :D

Anyway save the Dodo!
That works too, but the butt of the Dodo works just as well, with less effort(I preferred the spear hand punch prior to the Dodo) Use the blade for opening the boxes, and the butt for breaking them down. It's the perfect tool.
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smcfalls13 wrote:That works too, but the butt of the Dodo works just as well, with less effort(I preferred the spear hand punch prior to the Dodo) Use the blade for opening the boxes, and the butt for breaking them down. It's the perfect tool.
Well, the Dodo didn't exist back then, it was a part time job, and spear handing was good for focus work because lack of focus would me some bent finger joints... :o
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zenheretic wrote:Well, the Dodo didn't exist back then, it was a part time job, and spear handing was good for focus work because lack of focus would me some bent finger joints... :o
Ouch, I've done before, it's not exactly pleasant.
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does anybody even own the vegebond>?
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Vincent wrote:does anybody even own the vegebond>?
I do! Granted it doesnt get much use, but i have one. I play w/ it from time to time. The Vegabond is a great design, the only reason I never got into it was its blade steel. If it had been ATS-55 or VG10 i would own several. Aus-6 doesnt have hold an edge well enough for a field knife IMO.
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What? No one wants to hazard any other guesses? The Deacon is the only one with thoughts on this matter? :rolleyes: When I saw the Vagabond on his list I had to go look to see what it looked like :p ...yeah wouldn't be surprised if it went away...only talk I've seen about it is the recent pumpkin carving thread. I forgot that there was already talk about the Catherman getting "deep sixed"... :D
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I think The Deacons list is pretty accurate. I think I would like to see the ss Kiwi and the Scorpius stay a bit longer. We shall see :)
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steeldust wrote:I think The Deacons list is pretty accurate. I think I would like to see the ss Kiwi and the Scorpius stay a bit longer. We shall see :)
ditto that...of course I would hate to see the Yojimbo go, but as it is just a folding Ronin with better ergos...it will probably suffer the same fate as the Ronin... :(
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steeldust wrote:I think The Deacons list is pretty accurate. I think I would like to see the ss Kiwi and the Scorpius stay a bit longer. We shall see :)
Yeah the Deacon does seem to pound a thread into submission pretty quick with his thorough info/opinions...can no one stand up to the Deacon?!!! :p :rolleyes:
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My thoughts...

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My Dear Deacon, if I might offer a few thoughts of my own...
The Deacon wrote:CF version will be the Harpy's swan song
NEVER! :D
The Deacon wrote:Catcherman will get deep sixed
I saw that one coming also...
The Deacon wrote:Spydersaw
I will be surprised if this gets axed.
The Deacon wrote:Stainless Nativep
No chance. Too many Native fans.
The Deacon wrote:D'Allara Rescue - replaced by Drop Point
I see room for both in the line.
The Deacon wrote:Dodo
As much as I hate to admit it, you should get one while you can.
The Deacon wrote:Yojimbo
I don't see Sal making a trainer for a discontinued model.
The Deacon wrote:Scorpius
Hmmm...
The Deacon wrote:Temperance
As much as I love this knife, I don't see it around much longer.

Don't think of the knives we will lose, think of those we have to gain! The new Endura 4/Delica 4! The Schempp mini-Persian and Kris!

As much as I love some of the potentially-soon-to-be-discontinued models, is it not fair to admit that without removing some from the line space will not be made available for newer models?

Time to part with some cash, my friends. If you have been putting off buying some of these models, I might recommend placing an order with New Graham.

Soon.

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Hannibal Lecter wrote:My Dear Deacon, if I might offer a few thoughts of my own...
I don't see Sal making a trainer for a discontinued model.
This was in regards to the Yojimbo...are you saying there is a trainer in the works?...
Hannibal Lecter wrote: Don't think of the knives we will lose, think of those we have to gain! The new Endura 4/Delica 4! The Schempp mini-Persian and Kris!

As much as I love some of the potentially-soon-to-be-discontinued models, is it not fair to admit that without removing some from the line space will not be made available for newer models?

Time to part with some cash, my friends. If you have been putting off buying some of these models, I might recommend placing an order with New Graham.

Soon.

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Hey Hannibal good to see you step in and offer your thoughts...

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see the new stuff coming too, just trying to see around the corner, eat the apple, look in the looking glass, read the tea leaves, follow the cat throught the wall...
and of course figure out what to buy before it is gone. ;)
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I would not be surprised if the Karambit is in the danger zone and as The Deacon mentioned in an earlier thread the Assists are probably no money makers either. I doubt the Harpy will have to go already but the Dodo, Scorpius and maybe the Stretch could be facing discontinuation.
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Hi Hannibal, hope you understand that my list did not reflect knives I want to see dropped (otherwise the SS Kiwi would certainly NOT have been on it), but rather knives I think are "in danger" of being dropped for lack of sales. It also was based on "almost" pure guesswork, not on direct input from anyone who might really know what sells and what does not. Your industry contacts, and thus your "intell" on this, could very easily be better than mine.

The one thing it does reflect is Sal's comment when soliciting input for a prior year's "drop list", that around 20% of the lineup must be retired each year to make room for new models. My guesses may be correct, or incorrect, or most likely a mixture of both, but am sure Sal's first comment on them would be that there are too few, rather than too many, knives on it.

So, my question to you then becomes, if, for example, the Harpy is to be retained, what model or variant, not already on my list, takes its place on the chopping block? I would be interested in hearing your ideas on that.

Finally, while I agree there are a lot of Native fans here, how many of them favor the all stainless version? I will admit a degree of personal negative bias here, but my observation has been that it gets "almost" as little favorable commentary on the forums as the infamous BRK Native. I'm not convinced many here would mourn its passage, and even less sure how many "real world" users are even aware it exists.
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