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Hawkbills?

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A lot of people here seem to be hawkbill fanatics hence I'm asking here rather than on other fora.

Simply, what is so great about hawkbills?
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999 wrote:A lot of people here seem to be hawkbill fanatics hence I'm asking here rather than on other fora.

Simply, what is so great about hawkbills?
Well 999 I was kind of like you about a year ago. Then I got me a Spyderhawk which was the very first Hawkbill knife I ever owned. It turned out to be a very handy tool. First of all I have never seen any blade cut rope like the Hawkbills do. Second the versatility is almost without compare. They are a unique tool in their own rite. When you are pulling a cut with them there is very little resistance and they are always in an angle of attack to whatever material you are cutting. Like I said: Try one, you'll like it ;) :spyder: . The Spyderhawk & Harpy are my 2 favorites. JD Spydo
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999 wrote:A lot of people here seem to be hawkbill fanatics hence I'm asking here rather than on other fora.

Simply, what is so great about hawkbills?
I'm going to have to agree whole heartedly with what JD Spydo said. ;)


The hawksbill is an insanely versatile (sp?) tool, and has many more uses than you could think of besides rope and such. The only things it really wont do well is dice food and skin animals but there are ways around things like that, they can be done, I cook with mine. :)

Also it can be a turn off to sheeple who are not used to seeing a scary SE Harpy or hawksbill. :rolleyes: That may be a good thing or a bad thing. :D

Just wait until the other hawksbill enthusiasts answer your question they will tell you alot more. At times it can look like we are obbsessed with those hawksbills but its for those reasons above and the reasons the others will tell you ;)

And if you are thinkning of getting one, get the SE Harpy it will change the way you look at hawksbills, you may even become like us. :p

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:spyder: On a self-protection level biomechanical cuts with a hawkbill are very devastating. the blade pulls all the way to the bone using crossada motions. :spyder:
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:spyder: I also like that hawkbills aren't designed for stabbing motions. should adjudication after a self-protection incident occur I will be able to point out that even though lethal force( a knife is lethal force) was being used the blade design affords more restaint (no deep stabbing) as does biomechanical cutting (defang the snake) :spyder:
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Michael Cook wrote: :spyder: On a self-protection level biomechanical cuts with a hawkbill are very devastating. the blade pulls all the way to the bone using crossada motions. :spyder:
I had forgotten about the use of hawkbills in MBC roles. In the hands of someone who knows what there doing, the amount of damage a hawksbill or a reverse-S blade can do is amazing. In the hands of someone who does not study MBC a hawksbill can still be quite effective in a self defense role. ;)

And as Michael also noted the design allows for alot more restraint, that could be used in the courtroom if you ever had to defend yourself, it may really help swing the jurors to your side. ;)


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You don't stab youself as easy with a hawkbill and a serrated hawkbill blade cuts like a laser. A while ago I had to cut some car carpet. My Harpy SE went through it like butter.
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A lot of functional reasons have ben given why so many of us are fans of these curves, but onething has not been said...

Because they look so cool!

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PERTINAX wrote:A lot of functional reasons have ben given why so many of us are fans of these curves, but onething has not been said...

Because they look so cool!

May your day be filled with :spyder: adventure!
Yes sir, you speak the truth, they do look cool, especially with teeth. ;)
LONG LIVE THE SE HARPY!!! :D

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Michael Cook wrote: :spyder: On a self-protection level biomechanical cuts with a hawkbill are very devastating. the blade pulls all the way to the bone using crossada motions. :spyder:
Yup! ;)

God bless :cool:

PS: as Pertinax said also: They are cool looking :)
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Hello 999,

I will give you a simple answer, go and buy a 30USD byrd Crossbill and find it out yourself, ok?
Hawkbills are cool, even disease for some people (Hello Hannibal ;) )

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224477 wrote:Hawkbills are cool, even disease for some people (Hello Hannibal )
You speak the truth, my friend. Ordered a new one yesterday. :D

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Video maybe?

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I have just recently petitioned the General himself. I asked Sal Glesser if he would consider making a video on the advantages and attributes and the proper use of Hawkbill knives. Being they are somewhat of a "flagship" eye catcher in the Spyderco line I think that more people would be glad to give them a chance if they knew more about them. Just like the brother that started this thread: There are a lot of well meaning knife users out there that are unaware of the accolades of these fine tools. They are not a novelty like some people perceive them as being. DOCTOR LECTER would you please confirm what I just said? :cool: :spyder:
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JD Spydo wrote:There are a lot of well meaning knife users out there that are unaware of the accolades of these fine tools. They are not a novelty like some people perceive them as being.
Hawkbills are, in my opinion, the best knife for SD/MBC in untrained hands. There is significantly less likelihood of causing a fatal injury with a hawkbilled blade in a confrontation, but a greater likelihood of causing your opponent to rethink his course of action for several reasons: the blade looks scary; it causes great gashes; and it will assist in controlling your opponent when a straight blade would slip off of a limb while you are blocking.

I highly recommend the Keating video concerning the Civilian for anyone who carries a knife. It will change your mind about hawkbills permanently.

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Hannibal Lecter wrote:You speak the truth, my friend. Ordered a new one yesterday. :D

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Hey hannibal
a pic of all your hawkbills would be awsome ,would they fit in one shot :confused:
maybe a ladder would be needed :eek:
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jon shannow wrote:Hey hannibal
a pic of all your hawkbills would be awsome ,would they fit in one shot :confused:
maybe a ladder would be needed :eek:
I have been discussing this exact issue with my Lady, and we both think some photos are in order... :-)

Very soon.

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Hannibal Lecter wrote:I have been discussing this exact issue with my Lady, and we both think some photos are in order... :-)

Very soon.

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Aloha Hannibal!

Can't wait to see them! BTW, how do you and JD Spydo do this "back to back" thing when posting? :confused: :D

Jon...email me please!

God bless you guys :cool:
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DAYWALKER wrote:BTW, how do you and JD Spydo do this "back to back" thing when posting? :confused: :D
My Dear Friend, Daywalker,

It isn't intentional, I assure you. JD Spydo has a rather nasty habit of stimulating my thinking a bit, oftentimes about things I would not otherwise consider left to my own devices. His posts are interesting and often cause me to reconsider my opinions of things.

Hence, I post frequently soon after he does. Nothing surreptitious is going on, I assure you... :D

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Daywalker my friend!!! Are you thinking that I am embroiled in some sort of conspiracy or controversy. Maybe as though Doctor Lecter and myself are trying to corner the Forum :rolleyes: . NO Sir I can guarantee you that Doctor Lecter and I are just simply Hawkbill "addicts". For which there is no cure ( thank goodness). You know though come to think about it the good Doctor and I are on the same page so much it is as though we must be kin or something.

No I have never made a controversial statement ever one this Forum ( while my fingers are crossed :rolleyes: ). Chad you know darn good and well that the "Time for a New Hawkbill" thread has indeed sparked a great deal of positive controversy and it has put your design on the map. They can call the BLADE the "JDSPYDOHAWK" as Michael Cook has suggested or we could call it the "HANNIBILL" as would give the good Doctor the credit he so deserves. :cool: :spyder:
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See my friends, there we go again? :D

JDSpydo, I have no Hbill "on the map"...maybe one day, yes. :o I think you got me confused with our fine Hannibal Lecter's design from before, OR zackerty's? ;)

God bless and take care. :cool:
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