C99 Volpe (pic)

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C99 Volpe (pic)

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posted by Joyce in another thread but I thought it deserved its own thread! :)

italian made and Volpe means fox but that's all we know...

what's the wood on it?
which steel blade?
who's the designer?

we want to know everything and we need a better pic too... :D
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that is a cool knife
how much?
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Groan, holy smokes. Another knife added to my want list. That's a beauty.
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It would be nice if it didn't have that crazy divit in the blade right in front of the hole.

What on earth are they thinking? It looks like they made a mistake on the grinding wheel.

....and what's up with those vertical grooves on the clip side?

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Looks cool! Perfect for customizing :D

But the blade shape... :eek: :rolleyes:

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A real beauty if you ask me!!!!!...Doc
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Fisher, this is a frame lock. The grooves is the cutout you need to make that part of the frame flex so it can make the lock up. But they could have been made on the inside. The designer must have wanted to show it, to make functioning visable. My guess, its a collab, with Fox knifes from Maniago. Another guess, the wood is olive. Now the steel is something else. Until recently Fox only applied 440-A, but now they also take better steel for some models like N-690 from Bohler. That would be my third guess.

Btw, I think the reactions on this knife give much of the answer on the Fit and finish discussion.
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mmmm...I don't recall this one making the rounds at the amsterdam preview show. :confused: And I was convinced we saw everything that was planned untill 2010! :D

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A good second look, learns me that it should be a 3 inch bladed hard user. My favorite Spydie genre. Full flat grind, with room for index finger positioning right in front of the hole, frame lock. I'm not sure I like the wood inserts though, but a quick email to Santa Fe could fix that. The cooperation with an Italian manufacturer would also make me wonder about the fit and finish. If this knife comes out, and the usual suspects on this forum don't give it a uniform thumbs-up, I would want to handle it before purchase.

But the main things I'm guesstimating, 3 inch blade, full flat grind, hard user; me likee :D !

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Hi All - The "Volpe", together with a second design, was passed on to Spyderco during the IWA show in Nürnberg, Germany last March. It is designed on a volontary basis by our friends of FOX knives from Maniago (you're absolutely correct Piet!) The wood inlays are indeed olive tree wood, a wood very popular in the Mediterranian region of Europe.
I haven't read Joyce's post, so I don't know if there are already decisions taken weather it will be produced or not. Unfortunately I don't recall the balde steel but I believe either 440C ot CPMS30V. (No garanties here, however)

The cutout on top of the blade is designed as a fingerrest to enable more control with fine cutting jobs.
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PS. I also recall that the spyder on the rear is a laser cutout!!!!! Very Cool!!!
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Jurphaas wrote: The cutout on top of the blade is designed as a fingerrest to enable more control with fine cutting jobs.
Jurphaas.

PS. I also recall that the spyder on the rear is a laser cutout!!!!! Very Cool!!!
See, in that case I don't think it's so bad. Thanks for the info.

Please forgive my ignorance.

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:spyder: I like the grooves on the blade. it looks like it would fist load quite securely. :spyder:
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I'm definitely in for one, a framelock with Spydie flair.
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I don't really care for the finger cutout in the blade but 'HEY' its a framelock so I will be getting one.
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Dr. Snubnose wrote:A real beauty if you ask me!!!!!...Doc
It is a beauty, but my 2 cent's, I don't like the wood scales. Sorry!
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The Volpe was designed by Gabriele & Giaoni Frati (sp?) of Fox Cutlery in Maniago, Italy. It certainly has an Italian flair. Fox will also be building the model for Spyderco. Steel is N690Co, an Austrian stainless with a good reputation for performance.

We felt the design would be popular in Europe. We'll also make the model available in the non European communities.

Plan is for SEP/OCT release.

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N690?!? My prayers were heard! Thank you :D

I think I'll need at least two...

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Rob wrote:N690?!? My prayers were heard! Thank you :D

I think I'll need at least two...

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N690 is the steel BM uses for the Pika. I'd say it performs quite similar to ATS-55 (not bad at all IMHO) :)
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Hi Carlos!

Well, N690 is produced by Boehler and also known in Europe as 1.4528 or X105CrCoMo182. Chemically it consists of 1,07 C, 0,40 Si, 0,40 Mn, 17,00 Cr, 1,10 Mo, 0,10 V and 1,50 Co.

It is basically a Cobalt-alloy much like VG-10. The flexibility of blades hardened to 60 HRc and higher is very good and it holds an edge for quite a while. I also found that this steel is not too difficult to sharpen, even at a higher HRc - also much like VG-10

Until the Monochrome from BM came out, the only manufacturer that used this steel was the Italian company Extrema Ratio. I've made several knives of this steel myself and I am a huge fan of it. It's easy to work with (not really important for the ELU, I know), it performs very well and takes a nice polish.

When the BM came out, I had to have it just because of the steel and it was really affordable but I sold it shortly after I got it. BM used a beadblast finish and I am not really a big fan of it so it had to go.

The Volpe seems to be satinized. That and my experiances with the steel are reason enough for me to buy it. I can highly recommend the material and if the price is not too high I suggest everyone to give it a try. It'll make a great user!

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