Budget line love?

[chuck_roxas45]

Oh nooo

Indeed! I hope we can get something 52100 some time down the road.

[anagarika]

Indeed! I hope we can get something 52100 some time down the road.

Chuck, what 52100 you currently have & how it is so far?

I thought this Tenacious line will have BD1 upgrade, but seems that the factory can't make it well enough at the moment. From Lance's and many others' experience it seems a good one.

[chuck_roxas45]

Chuck, what 52100 you currently have & how it is so far?

I thought this Tenacious line will have BD1 upgrade, but seems that the factory can't make it well enough at the moment. From Lance's and many others' experience it seems a good one.

I have three knives in 52100. They are locally forged and 2 I use in the kitchen. One is a kephart design which is quite suitable for bushcrafty tasks. I love the edges that they take because they feel and act very aggressive. Edge retention is quite sufficient for me for both my kitchen use knives. The kephart design seems to be a bit better edge holder. The smith who forged it said that he heated it until non-magnetic before quenching. The smith who forged my two kitchen knives wouldn't take any suggestions to the HT but after an initial rebeveing and sharpening a couple months ago, I haven't sharpened the smaller one(5 inches?) that I use mostly everyday and although it's no longer knife nut sharp, it will still slice tomatoes, no problem. I beveled it at 30° and finished with 400 grit moldmaster.

I have a bigger one(around 10 inches long) that was used to cut up a whole roast pig, bones and all, to manageable sizes, and the edge damage was not really a lot. Took me just around 20 minutes on the EP to repair. So I'm liking the toughness(at least on the ones I have) and I absolutely love the kind of edges it takes, whether polished or low grit.

[dbcad]

The value line definitely has a useful place :) Whether they're right for you or not depends on personal tastes, preferences and criteria

This little sucker has been in my wallet for years now, always sharp and ready to cut :D

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

They are a great line of knives and I own an Ambitious and a Resilience, and I LOVE the 100% edge design that they have....more Spydercos should have this as far as I'm concerned. But they don't see much pocket time. Not because of any snobby reasons, but because there are others that just fit my hand better.

[chuck_roxas45]

They are a great line of knives and I own an Ambitious and a Resilience, and I LOVE the 100% edge design that they have....more Spydercos should have this as far as I'm concerned. But they don't see much pocket time. Not because of any snobby reasons, but because there are others that just fit my hand better.

Common Snoo, saying that other knives fit your hands better is just as snobby as saying that they don't hold the edge well enough for me. :D

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Common Snoo, saying that other knives fit your hands better is just as snobby as saying that they don't hold the edge well enough for me. :D

Ha ha ha...you could be right. :P

I guess that it comes down to the fact that I can afford pretty much any knife that I want, so rather than limiting myself to something that will get the job done, I carry things that really just do it for me...design, materials etc.

Though I still say that the Resilience line is a very good line, far better than their price would indicate.

[anagarika]

Chuck,

On the other hand, I'm loving the 52100 bluntcut sent me. The small paring is sharper than anything with just compounds (black, white & green) and give me nice shave.

It seems not a very difficult one to HT but Spyderco definitely wants consistency & perfection in execution. My Resilience is waiting for a chance of reblade :D

[chuck_roxas45]

Ha ha ha...you could be right. :P

I guess that it comes down to the fact that I can afford pretty much any knife that I want, so rather than limiting myself to something that will get the job done, I carry things that really just do it for me...design, materials etc.

Though I still say that the Resilience line is a very good line, far better than their price would indicate.

Hard to argue with any of that. :D

Chuck,

On the other hand, I'm loving the 52100 bluntcut sent me. The small paring is sharper than anything with just compounds (black, white & green) and give me nice shave.

It seems not a very difficult one to HT but Spyderco definitely wants consistency & perfection in execution. My Resilience is waiting for a chance of reblade :D

I definitely would take Sal's word when he says something. :)

[ChrisinHove]

I've no doubt that as they have the spyderco name both on and behind them, the Tenacious line are of satisfactory quality and utility. I'm happy to pay more for some of the better ones myself. Quality products often follow the law of diminishing returns, however, and we all make our own judgement call on how far we are prepared to climb up that steepening slope.

[sal]

Hi Parhelion,

Welcome to our forum and thanx much for the support. Also you hang in there in Ukraine. We're proud of you for people power.

sal

[sal]

Hi Sal, Any other less than stainless candidates, for a sprint perhaps? It seems the past Tenacious/Persistence limited runs sold dang fast.

Hi Blerv,

The Tenacious sprints were exclusives made for distributors. I might be able to get one of the Chinese makers to deal with a non stainless, (not the Tenacious maker) but generally, they like very high volume orders so sprints are not that desireable. We can do non stainless in Japan, Taiwan or Italy more easily. What did you have in mind?

sal

[sal]

I've no doubt that as they have the spyderco name both on and behind them, the Tenacious line are of satisfactory quality and utility. I'm happy to pay more for some of the better ones myself. Quality products often follow the law of diminishing returns, however, and we all make our own judgement call on how far we are prepared to climb up that steepening slope.

Hi ChrisinHove,

Welcome to our forum. I seem to have a vague memory of saying hi before, if so, my apologies. (getting old).

sal

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Hi Blerv,

The Tenacious sprints were exclusives made for distributors. I might be able to get one of the Chinese makers to deal with a non stainless, (not the Tenacious maker) but generally, they like very high volume orders so sprints are not that desireable. We can do non stainless in Japan, Taiwan or Italy more easily. What did you have in mind?

sal

I'm not Blerv...but how about a M4 Pingo?

Or even a G10 M4 UKPK...

52100 or D2 I'd love in a small bird and trout type knife. Maybe a Krein?

Oh man...I just had the best idea. M4 leaf shaped Urban, with a dark purple G10!

[Holland]

I would kill for an M4 chaparral... Due to it being a series, I know this is a long shot. Would love to see a caly3 with another non stainless from the same steel company

[Holland]

I would buy an M4 ukpk in a heartbeat

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Whoa...not sure how that happened.

[Holland]

Whoa...not sure how that happened.

wahhhh? :confused:

[Blerv]

Hi Blerv,

The Tenacious sprints were exclusives made for distributors. I might be able to get one of the Chinese makers to deal with a non stainless, (not the Tenacious maker) but generally, they like very high volume orders so sprints are not that desireable. We can do non stainless in Japan, Taiwan or Italy more easily. What did you have in mind?

sal

Hi Sal,

Thanks for the info :) .

My own eccentric tastes aside (Lil Temp, ATR, Salsa, etc). Perhaps a Cento3/4 or Manix2 lightweight. I don't know anything about it but Daido GM1 seems interesting on paper. That or something like O-1 or M4 for the Manix2 LW would be fun. I do think those fit the theme of the "budget" thread, at least compared to the g10 and cf knives. They also seem like well known and easy to sell models.

My .02. :) . Even a ZDP burgundy cento would be exciting.

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

wahhhh? :confused:

Double posted like an hour after the original...