Black Coated Blade

[Evil D]

It is nonsense that you could not start new posts because all is already covered. You totally missing the point.

You always have people that dont know how to interpretate although I explain things well.
People react to my post as it is nonsense but I talk about FACTS.
Nothing difficult here to understand.

Too many topics are here covering the same subjects, that has a negative effect on a forum in more than one way. I urge you to think about it. You need to interpretate my post as help for the forum. Its a product of vision.
Also my post was in first written to surfinggringo who has the same habit not to search before posting. Which I told him recently. Which you can follow when you look to former postings in his history profile ofcourse.

But how foolish you all are (sorry to say) is in the fact that I tell you here that the TS has opened in the past a topic with exactly the SAME SUBJECT. I even gave a date and link and topic title. He was already updated about the subject then.

Why you ignore that????????? geeze :rolleyes:



More of the same>>
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You all are running around in circles but are not aware of it.
When I tell you, you ignore the facts.

Im not out on senseless discussions, I wrote enough in this topic to make the right point.
Wish you all luck to find some wisdom, you can use it . . . .

Thanks for keeping us on the right track. If it wasn't for your suggestion this forum would be over run with valuable discussion and information. Think about it...a search on any given topic would pull up MULTIPLE threads...we can't let that happen. Thanks again for your tireless effort to control this flow of information.

Do you think the two of you can take your slap fight to PM or something and stop cluttering up these threads with nonsense? This is getting old and is bleeding over into several threads.


As for DLC, I've found it to be much more scratch resistant than the steel itself, if that tells you anything. Of course, that's with casual use...if you try to open a soup can with a DLC knife, you can expect the DLC to be removed. I EDC'ed a DLC Para 2 for almost a year straight and didn't get a single scratch from cutting up cardboard everyday. The only scratch it got was from some loose change in my pocket.

[DedRok]

As for DLC, I've found it to be much more scratch resistant than the steel itself, if that tells you anything. Of course, that's with casual use...if you try to open a soup can with a DLC knife, you can expect the DLC to be removed. I EDC'ed a DLC Para 2 for almost a year straight and didn't get a single scratch from cutting up cardboard everyday. The only scratch it got was from some loose change in my pocket.

Yeah, if your cutting normal day to day stuff you almost will never rub off the black coating. Here is a video of jdavis882 putting his Strider DLC tanto into a can of soup... as you can see the DLC scatches but not as much as you may think... again this is putting a knife through a can... you will probably never do this.

[video=youtube;radqeN-sEG8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=radqeN-sEG8[/video]

On the otherhand the Manix 2 black seems a little more glossy and may have more of a chance of scratches over the matt colour of the Para 2.

[Evil D]

On the otherhand the Manix 2 black seems a little more glossy and may have more of a chance of scratches over the matt colour of the Para 2.

I have one but I got the M4 Manix 2 sprint about a week later, so I haven't used my DLC Manix 2 much at all so I can't really comment on it. Maybe I'll throw it in my pocket for a while just to test it out and post back later.

[DRKBC]

The only scratch it got was from some loose change in my pocket.

That's how I scratched my Military. It never gets scratched from work as such it gets scratched from all the crap that fills my pockets up on a busy day.

[DedRok]

I have one but I got the M4 Manix 2 sprint about a week later, so I haven't used my DLC Manix 2 much at all so I can't really comment on it. Maybe I'll throw it in my pocket for a while just to test it out and post back later.

I just took this photo for Wolverine666... the Manix 2 black has a more true black to it and the para 2 has a more flat black to grey color to it.


Top: Black Manix 2.... Has a more shiney DLC but I haven't used this knife at all... maybe carried it twice.

Bottom: Paramilitary 2... Used heavily as an EDC (1.5 years?) and you can't tell that there is anything wrong with the paint. Its mostly dirty.... If I were to take a wash cloth and clean the blade it would look pretty much new.

[Evil D]

Here's some pics of my Para 2 and the few very faint scratches it got. They were taken after the first solid month of constant day to day use, but it looked pretty much the same 10 months later when I sold it. Much of what you see on the coating that looks like scratches really aren't scratches...it's more like some sort of "transfer" from cutting cardboard. If you wiped those scratches with your bare finger they would eventually rub off. The small scratch on the spine and the one to the right of the Sal logo were caused by coins in my pocket.

[DedRok]

Here's some pics of my Para 2 and the few very faint scratches it got. They were taken after the first solid month of constant day to day use, but it looked pretty much the same 10 months later when I sold it. Much of what you see on the coating that looks like scratches really aren't scratches...it's more like some sort of "transfer" from cutting cardboard. If you wiped those scratches with your bare finger they would eventually rub off. The small scratch on the spine and the one to the right of the Sal logo were caused by coins in my pocket.

Looks great man! I personally like them scratched and dirty. Gives the knife way more personality and character.

I guess I gotta put some coins in my pocket to give it a more used look. :D

[Evil D]

Looks great man! I personally like them scratched and dirty. Gives the knife way more personality and character.

I guess I gotta put some coins in my pocket to give it a more used look. :D

Yeah, completely agree. I traded mine in for a Military after getting my 20CP Para 2, because I didn't think I'd ever use it again after getting the sprint. That knife goes down as one of my biggest knife regrets. I gotta get another one eventually, though I'll probably get a DLC Military first.

[phillipsted]

The only time I've had any significant wear on my DLC Para2 was when I slipped it into a 3d Party kydex sheath. The sharp edge of the kydex rubbed against the top edge of the spine and it peeled off some of the coating. I just used a heat gun to soften the kydex and move it away from the knife a little bit and everything was OK. But now I've got a half-inch section of the spine that has been scraped clean...

Tough... but not invincible...

TedP

[BadFish]

I have a h1 USn Catcherman that I use around water and cutting fish up for bait and filleting. I've scraped this blade on lots of difference surfaces and gone thru some hard bone and yet to scratch the coating itself. When I first got it I was worried because it looked like I did actually scratch it, but with a cleaning I realized the other material was stuck on the top and it cleaned right off. I would not hesitate to buy another black blade.

On a side note from a few threads I have noticed all divo does is botch about other peoples postings. Maybe you should reflect and think about if he has anything real to add to the original topics. If you don't like what someone posts please move on with your day diva it's quite old watching you troll. My 2 cents

[TheChunk91]

DLC is very tough, you shouldnt have to worry about it, it doesnt come off unless you intentionally try to take it off (like cutting open a can or something) and even then its not easy. Two interesting things I have noticed about DLC is that it increases cutting resistance, especially with cardboard and also it increases the jimping traction noticeably which is a great thing. My black/digicam para 2 has a year+ of edc use and from a distance you cant even see the scuffs in the blade, but the coating is still very much intact.

[mattman]

@EvilD

Those scratches in those pics look like "transfer of material" to me... nickel is relatively soft...? I'm thinking that it just might have been a little more difficult to remove...

Too bad you let it go, so we couldn't examine it a bit more closely.

[bdblue]

Be aware that all coatings are not equal, meaning that the Spyderco Colorado coatings seem to be very durable, while the coatings from other manufacturers, and possibly the Spyderco coatings made overseas, may not be nearly as durable.

[Evil D]

@EvilD

Those scratches in those pics look like "transfer of material" to me... nickel is relatively soft...? I'm thinking that it just might have been a little more difficult to remove...

Too bad you let it go, so we couldn't examine it a bit more closely.

You may be right because I don't recall them seeming very deep at all.

[PMBohol]

I found that by putting a dab of CLP on a rag and wiping the blades not only brought back the shiny black look but made the blade slicker. I am one who believes in putting something on the blades to prevent corrosion. If the DLC has any scratches on it that would be a entry point for rust. One note however, if you use your knife for food prep, you should consider something else less toxic to coat the blades.

[Stormy]

i can write many things whats wrong with that.

Not mean to be rude or pointing my finger, dont get me wrong but . . .

Here are a few things to think about and to get insight why.


-searching before posting your question should be the first thing you do. Its a very well-known and proven strategy for finding info.
Especially when the question you have is a very general one, the chance will be high to find topics already. Most questions are not really unique btw.

-the ts has almost 500 posts, then i assume he knows to find the searchbox.

-when each time a new topic is opened for an already covered subject. Again and again and again, people lose there appetite to post and share info, only some newbies and diehards will post, high change not all information will be written anymore. So quite possible the final information will become poorer and poorer each time. Aka incomplete.

-you also make that people with more than average knowledge give up this forum completely, because why should you write while everybody systematically ignores what you shared? Result is loss of qualityposters.

-its in general an unintelligent way of dealing with information.

-ignoring former topics and the time and energy people have put in before, to help others with information, is rude and disrespectful.

-boring for other members to be confronted with again another topic of the same subject. . .

-splitted information over more than one topic while the subject is the same.

-etc etc etc



then to my surprise i found a topic about exactly this subject made by the ts from 02-27-2012 called: Black blades :confused: Again i dont want to be rude but informative, maybe the ts has a kind of memory prob?
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthre ... ix+coating


last but not least
seems that the dlc is not exactly the same always, you can find pics here on the forum. Texture can differ, colorshade too and also different steels can give different dlc looks.

Interesting thing to have in mind is that a manix has not only a dlc blade but also other parts are blackened (liners etc) i have no idea how solid that black is. ??

tl;dr