Two days carry, not so good

[Stank]

Ok, after two days carry, chip in the blade and broke clip. Wondering if I bought a fake now. Picked up from local gun shop and paid fair market value, was reassured they wouldn't sell knock offs. I will say if it's fake I am very impressed, though that don't hold much weight being new to this. What you guys and gals think?

[sdedalus83]

Nothing looks off, but the clip looks like it was bent and then forced back into shape.

I've had much more initial edge damage to my 2 s30v knives than any other spyderco steel. Nothing like that chip, though. The PM2 was sold without ever using it after touching up the first time, while the Manix XL has been much better after a couple of touch ups.

[tvenuto]

That sucks, but looks real as far as I can tell. Do you remember cutting into something that may have chipped the blade? How did the clip break? Spyderco knives are well made but not invincible, so things can be damaged. Also, the factory edge has been known to be a bit more brittle due to the power sharpening it undergoes. There is a potential that the edge gets a bit overheated and is more prone to chipping. A few sharpenings should take care of that, but that does look worse than normal. Spyderco will sell you a new clip, or you could send it in and have a clip installed and have it resharpened.

[yablanowitz]

The nick in the edge looks more like an impact with something hard than a chip per say. I've done that cutting up a cardboard box and hitting a steel staple. I've done worse hitting a finish nail planing down the edge of a board. I've never seen a clip break in that particular spot, but then I've yet to break one myself. The knife looks legit to me, but all I have to compare it with is a CF/S90V Sprint.

[MLR]

Ok, after two days carry, chip in the blade and broke clip. .... What you guys and gals think?

I think that the blade did not get chipped, nor the clip broken, from the mere act of being carried. What did the chipping and what did the breaking?

[Cliff Stamp]

What did the chipping and what did the breaking?

I have torn off a lot of clips with back pocket carry, just think of the force of a person against the clip if it catches when you sit down - goodbye clip. However the blade has a piece of the edge broken right off in a half moon scallop, that looks like a hard cut like trying to chisel through a very thick wire/nail. On the positive, there is a lot of steel gone which assuming the OP isn't going to warranty is going to require a lot of steel removal to correct. You could experiment with the rest of the edge with no concerns than as you are going to have to grind it all back a lot to keep the curvature anyway.

[bearfacedkiller]

I have broke a wire clip and thought that it was because they are hardened different. I was trying to bend it a little to increase retention and it just snapped. I have done this same thing with the hourglass clips without a problem. I have found the hourglass clip ( the one you broke ) to be difficult to break. I have caught them on the seat belt of a forklift a few times and bent them out very far from the knife without breaking them and then bent them back and they seemed to be fine. I have not done this more than once with the same knife but have done it on a couple of different knives.

Could you give us a better description of how the damage occurred to both the blade and the edge? That will make it easier to determine if you have a defective knife or if it was user error. I hate to suggest the latter but you did say that you were new to this. If so we can give you a better idea of what it's limitations are. Hitting staples while breaking down cardboard is a very common one for example.

You can buy an new clip from Spyderco for just a few bucks and they can probably resharpen the edge for you too. They may want a small fee but if you are not able to sharpen it yourself that may be a better option. As Cliff stated, it will take quite a bit of sharpening to get that chip out.

[Evil D]

The only things that are suspicious to me is 1) I wasn't aware of any that came in S30V and saber grind...I was under the impression that when they switched to S30V they were all flat ground, and 2) the jimping on the under side of the blade looks too soft and rounded to me, every Manix 2 I've had used very sharp jimping there just like the spine is. I don't own a G10 version at the moment...anyone wanna compare those two things?

[3rdGenRigger]

They were made in S30V with the saber grind before they switched to FFG. I know that for sure.

[Stank]

Thanks for the replies and I should have gave more info, yes I hit the blade on a glass plate while cutting through a belt and the clip got caught on my railing and I tried to straighten it, both were my fault it's just I carried another knife for two years and didn't damage it anyway and this way literally two days. I will be sending it to Spydeco for the repairs and buy something else from Spyderco in the meantime, just want to be sure I can go back to the same shop and buy another real deal Spyderco.

[Evil D]

Just sounds like a fluke to me then. There's no specific time constraint when it comes to accidents. I've done the same thing with those clips...they don't like to be bent in any direction and then they really don't like to be bent back straight and they tend to snap before bending too far. As for the edge chip, I've never chipped one out that big but accidents do happen.

[GoldenSpydie]

I'm glad that this got resolved, and I'm glad that it wasn't a fake.

If you bend a clip and need to straighten it, heat it up red hot with a propane torch first and then bend it with pliers. I have done several this way and never broken one, but YMMV. (You also end up with a clip that has cool flame anodizing...)

[yablanowitz]

Thanks for the replies and I should have gave more info, yes I hit the blade on a glass plate while cutting through a belt and the clip got caught on my railing and I tried to straighten it, both were my fault it's just I carried another knife for two years and didn't damage it anyway and this way literally two days. I will be sending it to Spydeco for the repairs and buy something else from Spyderco in the meantime, just want to be sure I can go back to the same shop and buy another real deal Spyderco.

I drove old beat up used cars for four years without an accident or incident, bought a nice almost new pickup and it got stolen a week later. That's life.

[ManixFan]

That exact model of the Manix 2 was the very first Spyderco that I ever purchased. :)

Although mine does not see that much pocket time anymore it is a great knife that I will occasionally use for tougher jobs because of the greater blade strength due to the saber grind. It is unfortunate that you've had two incidents within such a short time but get a new pocket clip and sharpen the chip out of the blade and it should look after you for a long time.

Alternatively, you could always send it out to someone to have serrations ground into the base of the blade and turn it into a combination blade.

My two cents :D

[timlara]

I haven't had one of those hourglass clips snap before, but I did break the clip on my small Persian 2 close to the top like your photo when I tried to bend it to reduce the tension without removing it from the knife first, so it's certainly not hard to do if you bend it in just the right (wrong?) way.

Warranty service will take good care of you and can also confirm for sure that the knife is genuine if you still have doubts. They can probably tell you if the shop you purchased from is an authorized dealer as well.

By the way, welcome to the forum! :)