Took apart the Endura 4 for a detail cleaning Pics

Sully · #1

Thanks for taking the time to photograph the process, swigert. Non-experts, like myself, really get a lot from visual tutorials.

Always heard: taking apart a Spyderco (to clean/lube) voids the warranty. Always wondered: how exactly could they tell? Perhaps it's an honor code type of thing....

Regardless, thanks for your informative post.

this_is_nascar · #2

Does that picture depict mechanically the way that all Spyderco back-lock knives (such as the Chaparral and Caly 3.5) work?

xceptnl · #3

this_is_nascar wrote:Does that picture depict mechanically the way that all Spyderco back-lock knives (such as the Chaparral and Caly 3.5) work?

Based on my educational background as well as my (limited) experience from taking knives apart, I think the needed pieces are represented in that picture. I have seen the Delica taken apart dozens of times and this was the first I have seen an Endura. The parts are very similar, yet the shape is unique to the Endura.

jalcon · #4

Technically, just bc the loctite would be broken doesn't necessarily mean you took the knife apart.

opusxpn · #5

I did a cleaning in one of my enduras and ended up switching FRN on two of them, they look much nicer. The foliage green with a FFG and the brown with a combo edge. The design is so simple and so fool-proof but there is a small trick to it, you have to engage the lock pin at the very end so everything can line up. If not the spacer might not line up properly.

MadRookie · #6

Thanks for sharing swigert.

I kinda feel I understand/connect with a knife so much better after taking it completely apart and re-assembling it again.

Always interesting with a good karma.

:)

Revival · #7

Nice pics. Thank you for sharing.

Fred Sanford · #8

Nice pics. I love taking my D4's and E4's apart from time to time to do the same. :)

gull wing · #9

The Caly is the same, except for a steel spring holder.(plastic)
The Chaparral adds a stud stop for the blade.(superior design)
My Chap had a "dragging" blade, glad I took it apart. The stud stop was a tiny bit long and dragged on the CF scale. Took off a bit of the stud (in length) and the blade just drops when unlocked. :D

Laethageal · #10

That thought you guys have about opening up a knife and losing warranty is totally wrong. What will void the warranty is if you break something while doing so. Or if you reassemble it wrong and cause failure. If you read the warranty info on their webpage:

Repairs to your knife performed by any source other than Spyderco Inc. unconditionally voids the knife’s warranty.
Spyderco’s warranty does not cover damage caused by abuse, misuse, loss, improper handling, alterations, accident, neglect, disassembly, or improper sharpening.

Disassembly of a knife to clean it isn't considered repair, and thus the first line does not apply.
Unless you damage the knife during disassembly, second line doesn't apply either for that particular purpose.

Sully · #11

Laethageal wrote:That thought you guys have about opening up a knife and losing warranty is totally wrong. What will void the warranty is if you break something while doing so. Or if you reassemble it wrong and cause failure.

Thanks for the clarification. Careful disassembly for cleaning should be allowed. Good to know it is.

this_is_nascar · #12

gull wing wrote:The Caly is the same, except for a steel spring holder.(plastic)
The Chaparral adds a stud stop for the blade.(superior design)
My Chap had a "dragging" blade, glad I took it apart. The stud stop was a tiny bit long and dragged on the CF scale. Took off a bit of the stud (in length) and the blade just drops when unlocked. :D

Interesting. My blade is not flickable and will not drop on its own when unlocked. I just assumed it was designed to be that way. Which piece are you saying is plastic? Not sure I'm real fond of that.

Tally-ho · #13

swigert wrote:

Hopefully someone finds this useful, if anyone has any questions about disassembly and reassembly I would love to answer them and be of any help I can.

How was the reassembly for you ? Did you not find a bit tricky to realign the 4 metallic spacers/pins and the plastic pin of the back spacer to put the 2nd liner back in place ?

_centurio_ · #14

You have to be very careful with the plastic spacer. Better reasemble the knife without the push-bar and then when all the other screws are tightened put the bar and its pin in. Otherwise you will destroy the little nob of the spacer because of the force caused by the feather.

Oliver

_centurio_ · #15

I didn't want to attack you. But that happened the first time I dis -and reasembled a Endura. Now I do it the other way :) After some time I dis -and reasemble all of my knives where it is possible.

Clip · #16

Laethageal wrote:That thought you guys have about opening up a knife and losing warranty is totally wrong. What will void the warranty is if you break something while doing so. Or if you reassemble it wrong and cause failure. If you read the warranty info on their webpage:

Repairs to your knife performed by any source other than Spyderco Inc. unconditionally voids the knife’s warranty.
Spyderco’s warranty does not cover damage caused by abuse, misuse, loss, improper handling, alterations, accident, neglect, disassembly, or improper sharpening.

Disassembly of a knife to clean it isn't considered repair, and thus the first line does not apply.
Unless you damage the knife during disassembly, second line doesn't apply either for that particular purpose.

What do you have to back this up? Tazkristi has said numerous times that DISASSEMBLY voids the warranty, no qualifiers. Refer to this thread and specifically post 4.

http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthre ... post754418

That said, I've never needed to disassemble one of my Spydercos but feel I could successfully accomplish the task without breaking anything and trying to claim the warranty. I'm sure most forum users here are capable as well.

Surfingringo · #17

Hi Swigert, re: your op, I think the stretch will make a great hunting knife. Have you considered the superblue version? I just got a delica in superblue and this steel seems pretty amazing so far!

Umm...on a completely unrelated note, do you have any legitimate explanation for why you don't own a Military yet?? Seriously man, I think you will really like the Millie! Resistance is futile! :D

GronK · #18

Fun to take apart and put back together but what to do with the left over parts? My daddy used to say if I did it enough times I'd have enough parts to build another one!

Surfingringo · #19

Meh, those are just "extras"!

Drahkis · #20

swigert wrote:...XHP sprint run Millie would be great!

like that brown Military they recently produced in CTS-XHP?