How about a two-hand-operated locking spyderco knife?

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How about a two-hand-operated locking spyderco knife?

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Hi Sal Glesser.

Frist of all Big tanks from Denmark. The Pingo and the upcoming SpyDK especialy made within the strict Danish knifelow are very welcome.

In Denmark and Germany, bigger locking knives are legal, under certain circumstances.

In DK a THO locking folder with unlimited bladelength is legal for "creditable" use. That could be fishing, hunting or boyscouting.

Would you consider making a knife like that?

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I like the idea, I would like a larger blade for us folks in Germany.
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In rural activities (camping, hunting, etc) are fixed blades legal?
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How do the authorities in Denmark and Germany decide if a knife is THO? I ask because I'm pretty sure there are folks out there would can grab the blade of a Buck 110 and "Spydie drop" it open even though it lacks a Spyderhole.
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Blerv wrote:In rural activities (camping, hunting, etc) are fixed blades legal?
Fixed blades are legal in DK for hunting, fishing, camping and stuf.

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The Deacon wrote:How do the authorities in Denmark and Germany decide if a knife is THO? I ask because I'm pretty sure there are folks out there would can grab the blade of a Buck 110 and "Spydie drop" it open even though it lacks a Spyderhole.
Subjectively descided by the police in DK...

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Grejs76 wrote:Subjectively descided by the police in DK...

Mikael.
That's what I feared. It's fairly easy to design a knife to meet any clearly stated specification, but darn difficult to build one to satisfy every cop's notion of what's "legal carry". At least with a fixed blade, all you need worry about is having a valid reason for carrying it. Am sure there are cops who take a narrower view of that than others, but at least it's only one potential "gotcha" instead of two.
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Hi Mikael,

I think that Deacon has expressed the concern. A THO that cannot be opened with inertia is challenging indeed. This is a big problem is some areas like New York City.

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sal wrote:... A THO that cannot be opened with inertia is challenging indeed...
How about a locking mechanism that locks the blade in two positions, open and closed?

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gaj999 wrote:How about a locking mechanism that locks the blade in two positions, open and closed?
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Hi Godon, That would be possible. I believe I've seen some like that.

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I'm all ears.

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The law says, that the knife must not be made with the intention of Being able to OHO.

There are knives, that are concidered legal in Denmark within the law.
Examples of knives, that are legal are both within back locks and liner/frame locks. The tention on the blade in the closed position has to be strong.

The idea with the double lock system is also plausible.

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AS an example the Buck 110 is considered legal in Denmark. Even though it opens easily with one hand. It is possible to make a back lock knife model with a strong detent in the closed position.

As for the linerlock/ framelock its all in the detent and the amount of blade shown in the closed position.

In Germany, if I am not mistaking, it is all about the Nailnick.

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To be quite frank, i just see this as a very niche product for a company popularized by one-hand openers and adhering to city carry laws. If I wanted such a knife I would probably buy an Al Mar or Fallkniven with a nail nick. That or enjoy the current (and eventual) two handed openers Slipits.
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85 million Germans would like a THO locking knife. And of course the 5,5 million Danes.

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Ok, since hyperbole is fun.

250 million Americans love locking one-hand openers. I anticipate great sales for Spyderco :) .
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Blerv wrote:Ok, since hyperbole is fun.

250 million Americans love locking one-hand openers. I anticipate great sales for Spyderco :) .
I was not aiming at hitting you in any way. You obviously do.

I try to argument, that there are enough People in the World, that Would like a THO locking knife. Any other brand of knives are irrelevant to this discussion.

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What if there was a special run of Enduras (or some other Spyderco) made without a Spyderhole? Would that do the trick or does too much of it stick out from the handle to be considered two handed? If you still wanted it to look like a Spyderco knife you could print a black circle there when you put the logos on.
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Fresh Eddie Fresh wrote:What if there was a special run of Enduras (or some other Spyderco) made without a Spyderhole? Would that do the trick or does too much of it stick out from the handle to be considered two handed? If you still wanted it to look like a Spyderco knife you could print a black circle there when you put the logos on.
It has to have the Spyderhole due to tradmark isues. But the idea of putting a small hole on an already existing model is ok.
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The Native and the Stretch are some of the models, that could be interesting in a slightly moded version with a strong detent in the closed position.

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