Hawkbill or Cricket?
- GreatSyxsuke
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Hawkbill or Cricket?
Today I discovered the awesome power of the SpyderEdge. Previous knives I owned with serrations were okay at best, usually catching at some part of the cut and tearing the material. While slicing a canvas today off the printer at work using my Delica, I tried the SpyderEdge and it slid right through like a knife through butter.
So I want to get a full SpyderEdge blade but I'm trying to avoid just getting a straight blade with the SE. I have narrowed it down to a Hawkbill or the Cricket. Here's my criteria for what I need it for: cutting open and breaking down cardboard boxes (on a good day, maybe a total of twenty) and cutting artist's canvas off a roll (not that heavy of a stock).
I was thinking the Cricket except I'm not sure about stainless since I had to return a Flight due to the sharp edges and I didn't like how slippy it could be with sweaty hands. I also would prefer a clip so I'm leaning away from the Ladybug hawkbill. Lastly, I don't work in an environment that is going to expose the blade to water so I'm not sure if a Salt is needed either. I'm not against H1, just don't want to buy it if it's going to be more and not be needed.
Any advice is appreciated and suggestions of a different knife are welcome as well. Thanks!
Syxsuke
So I want to get a full SpyderEdge blade but I'm trying to avoid just getting a straight blade with the SE. I have narrowed it down to a Hawkbill or the Cricket. Here's my criteria for what I need it for: cutting open and breaking down cardboard boxes (on a good day, maybe a total of twenty) and cutting artist's canvas off a roll (not that heavy of a stock).
I was thinking the Cricket except I'm not sure about stainless since I had to return a Flight due to the sharp edges and I didn't like how slippy it could be with sweaty hands. I also would prefer a clip so I'm leaning away from the Ladybug hawkbill. Lastly, I don't work in an environment that is going to expose the blade to water so I'm not sure if a Salt is needed either. I'm not against H1, just don't want to buy it if it's going to be more and not be needed.
Any advice is appreciated and suggestions of a different knife are welcome as well. Thanks!
Syxsuke
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- GreatSyxsuke
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Seems like the Lil Matriarch is a favorite. I overlooked that for some reason, no idea. It looks like I may end up with one.
Blake: Out of curiousity, what would the Tasman SE offer that the Lil Matriarch doesn't, besides blade shape and H1 steel?
Blake: Out of curiousity, what would the Tasman SE offer that the Lil Matriarch doesn't, besides blade shape and H1 steel?
Current carry: Spyderco Squeak or Spyderco Pingo (Back right pocket), Paramilitary 2 Black G10 (front right pocket)
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
- Knivesinedc
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Nothing really. The lil' Matriarch offers a 4-way clip, Screw-together construction and better (IMO) ergonomics. the only difference is the tasman is 2oz. when the lil matriarch is 2.5oz.GreatSyxsuke wrote:Seems like the Lil Matriarch is a favorite. I overlooked that for some reason, no idea. It looks like I may end up with one.
Blake: Out of curiousity, what would the Tasman SE offer that the Lil Matriarch doesn't, besides blade shape and H1 steel?
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- GreatSyxsuke
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Seems like the Lil Matriarch is a favorite. I overlooked that for some reason, no idea. It looks like I may end up with one.
Blake: Out of curiousity, what would the Tasman SE offer that the Lil Matriarch doesn't, besides blade shape and H1 steel?
Blake: Out of curiousity, what would the Tasman SE offer that the Lil Matriarch doesn't, besides blade shape and H1 steel?
Current carry: Spyderco Squeak or Spyderco Pingo (Back right pocket), Paramilitary 2 Black G10 (front right pocket)
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
Knivesinedc said most all of it for me :) .GreatSyxsuke wrote:Seems like the Lil Matriarch is a favorite. I overlooked that for some reason, no idea. It looks like I may end up with one.
Blake: Out of curiousity, what would the Tasman SE offer that the Lil Matriarch doesn't, besides blade shape and H1 steel?
The Tasman is great and serrated H1 really holds an edge. Serrated VG10 is no slouch though and I think the perks of being the Delica4 platform (bi-directional texturing instead of volcano grip, 4-way clip, liners, etc) make up for it. It has a tad less flex, has a slightly more refined clip, and feels better in my hand for the little weight disadvantage.
Really though they are both hard workers and should serve you well. Just remember that tip will dig in HARD so make sure it's not grabbing things like staples.
- GreatSyxsuke
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Great, now I'm torn :) I like how the Lil Matriarch has the Delica handles and the shape is pretty cool. But I don't have a sharpening system so the Tasman might be better if H1 holds its edge longer. Also is it worth the extra bit on money for the full size Matriarch over the Lil Matriarch? I might just have to get a Tasman AND a (Lil) Matriarch :)
Current carry: Spyderco Squeak or Spyderco Pingo (Back right pocket), Paramilitary 2 Black G10 (front right pocket)
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
- smcfalls13
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Tasman is quite sturdy and will hold up to semi-abuse. Have not owned a mini Matriarch, but that tip looks a bit thin for heavy use. On the flip side, I find VG-10 to outlast H-1 before I need to sharpen, and serrated only increases the time between sharpenings.
I feel like I didn't help you choose at all. Just don't the standard route and get both :cool:
I feel like I didn't help you choose at all. Just don't the standard route and get both :cool:
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- GreatSyxsuke
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After some thought, I will most likely be going with a Matriarch. Is the extra $5 or $6 worth it to get the Matriarch over the Lil one? Obviously the handles are Endura-sized vs Delica-sized but does the blade length difference really change the cutting power? Most of the boxes I deal with are medium size, very few in the refrigerator box size.
Current carry: Spyderco Squeak or Spyderco Pingo (Back right pocket), Paramilitary 2 Black G10 (front right pocket)
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
Future wants: Karahawk
"It's far better to carry and never need than to not carry and desperately need."
If you think the cricket is to small get the dodo.fits hand better then all of them with the reverse s like the cricket. On the matriark the long blade catches things inside the boxes trust me.the cricket stays shallow it also cuts better.the hawkbills are made to slash and tear the cricket if for utility cutting.the dodo would be a perfect fit.I am a chef at wegmans supermarket I Carry the cricket in my top pocket and I amcutting all day.what I did was get a piece of skateboard griptape and added dots of it on the ss scales :p erfect.I have a dodo in my right pocket but I never use it cause the cricket is fine and doesn't hurt my hands.tried the matriark for a day: scared employees and was all over the place when cutting boxes. Also the plastic covered foam packing sheets would get cought on the tip and pull threw the cut.and watch out you don't have you're legs under the box or you will slashem cause the blade sticks out far from the cut.