16 Year old student suspened after disarming gunman

[xceptnl]

Wow

That's all I can say.

[OldSarSwmr]

This is the saddest statement to me, “How they going to suspend me for doing the right thing?”.
What a message to send to a young person! I hope someone lets him know that he did the right thing and that he is able to understand that he is NOT the same as the kid that actually committed the crime.
We are drowning in a sea of moral decay!

[dsmegst]

According to another article,

"Officials later revealed the student was suspended because he didn't cooperate with the investigation. The boy's mother said she believes her son wouldn't reveal the details to police because he was "born and raised" not to "snitch.""

So I guess this "crime" overshadows the heroics... Geez.

[Dr. Snubnose]

Not seen anything of another article dsmegst, maybe you could post a link, sure would like to read and follow this one.
FWIW: I agree with everyone and all of your comments and can feel your frustration, but there might be something else to think about here. "School Policy" I was conversing with a school teacher today, discussing the incident, and expressing my disgust with whole story. The school teacher said well at least in my school where I teach there is a school policy that says all students involved in any violent encounter with one another, are all automatically suspended. Right or Wrong you get mixed up in it...your suspended. He says they do it for the students safety, and it gives them and the authorities time to figure out what went on......and who acted rightly or wrongly. So it could be that and our student may get his day in court, or trip to meet the mayor at city hall, maybe even a visit to the white house if it turns out he's a "Real" hero. I don't know, it seems people are waiting to see how they might jump on this, pro-gun, anti-gun, politicians and media all needing to shape their take on it.......All I can think is....Poor Kid...Doc

[BAL]

Like many stories that you read about, there are other factors that might not come out in the
original story, but I haven't heard anythign that changes my mind about this one.

I understand "School Policy", "Office Policy", but most seem to be a CYA because officials and
managers can't make a decision and are afraid of what others might think of them. And then
they do things that make them look worse than if they just took a stand and made a good
decision based on evidence.

What if car accident policy was that anyone involved in a car wreck had to go to jail until it
was all figured out. Anyone involved in any altercation even if it was only verbal, say at a
Walmart or QuikTrip or anywhere in public, had to go to jail until it was sorted out, because
it's the policy.

Just because it is policy doesn't make the policy right. To me it's a cop out. Everyone is
suspended, that's just the way it is, I can't do anything about it. I call BS.

[yablanowitz]

The policy makers have forgotten that teaching doesn't end at the classroom door. We are all teaching, all the time. Their policy of suspending everyone involved in an incident until things can be sorted out is teaching their students that "don't get involved" is the best policy. That's how we've gotten into the mess we are in. Too many people have been taught not to get involved, let someone else do it. That leads directly to everyone standing around, wringing their hands and saying "Why doesn't someone do something about this?"

[SkullBouncer]

This sh*t maddens me to no end.
The sickening converse on display here -- apathy, myopic pacifistic zero- tolerance and ivory tower bureaucrats whom perpetuate the aforementioned makes for a poisonous cocktail indeed.
The saddest thing overall is the resultant spreading pandemic of cowardiced social engineering in our public education system... and this upside- down sense of twisted diametric victimization permeating throughout society is ALL too commonplace today. MHO.

What then of such compounding a future of a growing nanny state gone wild I find to be QUITE troubling. :mad:

SB / Bruce

[Monocrom]

Well it's official . . . American public schools are run by idiots.

[razorsharp]

when I was in school , a dude was trudging through school looking for somebody to beat up (grudge) all while yelling screaming swearing and smoking a joint, he threw fists at people and then tried throwing one at my woodwork teacher, he ducked and knocked the kid out, I dont think there was any bad consequences cause it was **** near the only thing to make the kid stop....... New Zealand

[chuck_roxas45]

when I was in school , a dude was trudging through school looking for somebody to beat up (grudge) all while yelling screaming swearing and smoking a joint, he threw fists at people and then tried throwing one at my woodwork teacher, he ducked and knocked the kid out, I dont think there was any bad consequences cause it was **** near the only thing to make the kid stop....... New Zealand

That 17% Bailey is a killer. :D

[v8r]

A good dose of good ole common sense would be in order for this situation. As the saying goes rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. We are living in difficult times these days where the lines have been blurred to what is right and wrong. The kid did the right thing whether or not school officials thought it correct or not. If he was truly suspended due to not cooperating with the investigation wouldn't that be a police matter? The school system is not the legal system.

[jackknifeh]

The easiest and safest thing for the student to do was just to let the guy get shot and not putting himself in danger. Putting himself in danger should be the only reason NOT do do anything. Doing nothing IMO would be wrong but self preservation is somewhat understandable. Doing nothing because of fear of being repremanded SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A CONSIDERATION. However, in the future students know they will at least get in trouble for trying to help someone else in certain situations. I don't believe I agree with this lesson the kids are being taught. Of course I don't know all the details but the fact that the three got suspended doesn't surprise me. Seems like I should be surprised but I'm not. I wonder if the documentation justifying suspension covered the fact that they possible save a life. If the school had to suspend them just because being involved is against a rule, they should re-write the rule. Or maybe just use common sense.

Here is another though. I don't fit into this category right now because my son is an adult and my grandsonj is 3. What if the hero were my child? Would I want him/her to help out in a situation like this or would I perfer he/she keep himself out of harms way? Keep in mind the hero in this situation could have ended up dead. Would I want my grandson in a few years to do the right thing given the risk he would be taking? This is a little different than standing up to a bully to protect a smaller kid when just a fist fight may be the result. I don't have an answer to this question. I just hope it doesn't happen to my grandson or anyone else's grandson or other child.

Also, if the gun were to have gone off during a struggle there is no telling where the bullet would have gone. There is no easy answer to this situation but I think the stupid answer is to punish the 3 heros. I just don't see any benefit in that.