C-44 Dyad Question

Lord vader · #1

I have been away for awhile,Does anyone know if there is going to be A C-44 Dyad in the works anytime soon. Possibly with G-10 scales and VG-10 steel?

CombatGrappler · #2

I believe there is a sprint in the works. Not sure on color/steel combo.

The Deacon · #3

CombatGrappler wrote:I believe there is a sprint in the works. Not sure on color/steel combo.

I'd agree. For the past couple years, Sal has been reluctant to use micarta so I'd think G-10 and CF would be the two leading candidates for scale material. As for steel, VG-10 is the most likely since Sal has also mentioned that ZDP-189 and serrations don't play well together, but that's just a guess.

kennethsime · #4

The Deacon wrote:I'd agree. For the past couple years, Sal has been reluctant to use micarta so I'd think G-10 and CF would be the two leading candidates for scale material. As for steel, VG-10 is the most likely since Sal has also mentioned that ZDP-189 and serrations don't play well together, but that's just a guess.

Any more info on ZDP and serratons? I'd be curious why they don't play well together. Will start searching.

I would vote G-10/VG-10, keep costs down and also make it fairly utilitarian.

#5

Hi Lord Vader,

There is a C44 large Dyad in-the-works, Gray G-10, VG-10 We've already approved of the prototype and we're waiting on production. Should be less than 6 months.

Hi Kenneth,

We experiences tooth breakage so we stopped making them. I believe it has to do with the combination of high hardness and the fact that a serration tooth stands alone and has no edge alongside to support the tooth.

sal

JudasD · #6

The Deacon wrote:I'd agree. For the past couple years, Sal has been reluctant to use micarta so I'd think G-10 and CF would be the two leading candidates for scale material. As for steel, VG-10 is the most likely since Sal has also mentioned that ZDP-189 and serrations don't play well together, but that's just a guess.

Any thoughts as to why the push away from Micarta? I realize that G10 is the current fad. While i do like G10 i think Micarta looks classier.

JD

kennethsime · #7

JudasD wrote:Any thoughts as to why the push away from Micarta? I realize that G10 is the current fad. While i do like G10 i think Micarta looks classier.

JD

From what I've read on the forums, I believe that Micarta is heavier, less stable, absorbs moisture, and is harder to produce consistently. That said, I think it's a great handle material for fixed blades and is super comfortable.

JudasD · #8

kennethsime wrote:From what I've read on the forums, I believe that Micarta is heavier, less stable, absorbs moisture, and is harder to produce consistently. That said, I think it's a great handle material for fixed blades and is super comfortable.

I didnt know this about Micarta. Thank you for the info.

JD

Bill1170 · #9

I think I recall that the "less stable" aspect is the principal reason Spyderco doesn't use micarta for folder scales.

The Deacon · #10

In fairness to micarta, handles made of it can be smooth and polished and still have "natural stickiness" when wet that aids grip, something polished G-10 and CF lack. As for stability, I respect Sal's opinion, and realize Spyderco's the one that takes the hit for fit & finish defects, but between Goddards, Jess Horns, Dyads, Calypsos, and a few others like the Viele Phoenix, Kopa, Street Beat, and the original JD Smith, I have well over a dozen micarta handled Spyderco folders and have never noticed any shrinkage, swelling, or other distortion in any of them. I would happily purchase another Spyderco with a micarta handle, assuming it was a model I like.

JD Spydo · #11

The Deacon wrote:In fairness to micarta, handles made of it can be smooth and polished and still have "natural stickiness" when wet that aids grip, something polished G-10 and CF lack. As for stability, I respect Sal's opinion, and realize Spyderco's the one that takes the hit for fit & finish defects, but between Goddards, Jess Horns, Dyads, Calypsos, and a few others like the Viele Phoenix, Kopa, Street Beat, and the original JD Smith, I have well over a dozen micarta handled Spyderco folders and have never noticed any shrinkage, swelling, or other distortion in any of them. I would happily purchase another Spyderco with a micarta handle, assuming it was a model I like.

I have to agree with Deacon on that>> I've also used, carried and put to really hard use many Spyderco knives with Micarta handles and I haven't experience any of those malodies that the one Brother was talking about. I'm sure there is "cheap micarta" out there on the market or Micarta made in 3rd World countries that has little or no quality. But I've never experience any problems with any of Spyderco's Micarta handles.

I'm looking so forward to a new C-44 Dyad with a G-10 handle. Six months is going to be a long time for me to wait. But I'm extremely thankful that there is a new one on the horizon. I'm sure going to be saving my pennies to get at least 2 or maybe 3 of them. I'll probably be using mine I'm sure.

CombatGrappler · #12

I just sold off a large part of my Spydie collection, but I will be sorely tempted by a new C44. Especially at a G-10, VG-10 price point!

The Deacon · #13

The original C44 was all screw construction, so I'm hoping the new one will be. If so, then I'm sure I can find someone to "shuffle the deck" for left handed use and replace the G-10 with something attractive.

kbuzbee · #14

The Deacon wrote: I would happily purchase another Spyderco with a micarta handle, assuming it was a model I like.

You and me, both, Paul. I don't see it happening but I'd be in!

Ken

Lord vader · #15

sal wrote:Hi Lord Vader,

There is a C44 large Dyad in-the-works, Gray G-10, VG-10 We've already approved of the prototype and we're waiting on production. Should be less than 6 months.

Hi Kenneth,

We experiences tooth breakage so we stopped making them. I believe it has to do with the combination of high hardness and the fact that a serration tooth stands alone and has no edge alongside to support the tooth.

sal

Thank you sal for your quick reply,I`m definitely looking forward to its availability.

Manix Guy 2 · #16

I have the Micarta 39 and 44 they are constucted differently . Will the sprint 44 have no liners except the divider between the blades ? G10 and VG10 is not a problem with me , but still have a love affair with Micarta . Regards MG2

Lord vader · #17

JD Spydo wrote:I have to agree with Deacon on that>> I've also used, carried and put to really hard use many Spyderco knives with Micarta handles and I haven't experience any of those malodies that the one Brother was talking about. I'm sure there is "cheap micarta" out there on the market or Micarta made in 3rd World countries that has little or no quality. But I've never experience any problems with any of Spyderco's Micarta handles.

I'm looking so forward to a new C-44 Dyad with a G-10 handle. Six months is going to be a long time for me to wait. But I'm extremely thankful that there is a new one on the horizon.
I'm sure going to be saving my pennies to get at least 2 or maybe 3 of them. I'll probably be using mine I'm sure.

Leave some for me JD,LOL. :D