Should the compression lock idea just be abandoned?
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Pneumothorax
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Just to pile on here. I love the comp lock. It is the only lock that I can open and close one handed with the least amount of moving/adjusting my hand position on the handle - and the only one lock type that I can flip the blade closed in one motion. I will admit though, it is sort of a knife person's lock since you gotta explain how to close to everyone who hasnt seen one - unlike the midlock.
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Ain't that ever the truth. Nobody hands me my Para already closed. They can't figure out how.Pneumothorax wrote:Just to pile on here. I love the comp lock. It is the only lock that I can open and close one handed with the least amount of moving/adjusting my hand position on the handle - and the only one lock type that I can flip the blade closed in one motion. I will admit though, it is sort of a knife person's lock since you gotta explain how to close to everyone who hasnt seen one - unlike the midlock.
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Sithus1966
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I think the number of replies to this thread answers the question with a resounding no. I like it and have no problem with it right handed or left.
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MachSchnell
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Well when such a question is asked with the suggested idea of back-stepping the evolution of locking folders, there is bound to be many opposing opinions upon the matter.Bill1170 wrote:OP never came back, did he? His ideas not getting a lot of support from the community here could be the reason why.
For the questions:
Should the compression lock idea just be abandoned? No
Should designs utilizing the compression locks be redesigned to accommodating other lock designs? No, and the knife design might need to be significantly altered to just change the locking method.
The compression lock, well in my experience is just as easy to manipulate as a liner lock and is safer because your fingers are not in the way of the closing blade. The lock can be manipulated to "flick" the blade open and closed safely. And finally the design is just as simple as a liner lock and is much stronger and less likely to "fail" and close up on the user.
Thought I'd add in my two pennies as this thread has gone on longer than I expected.
As much as I love the comp lock on my Junior, I can see where people have complaints if they are carrying the Yo 2. When I first got the knife, the blade would not drop unless I pushed the lock in hard. I have broken it in since then, but it still sticks sometimes and is not nearly as smooth as the Junior's comp lock. However, I bought from the first batch, so this may have changed with the later batches.
The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
There's probably some variation across knives. My two Yo2's are much easier to unlock than my (one) PM2 and is much smoother.Onionman wrote:As much as I love the comp lock on my Junior, I can see where people have complaints if they are carrying the Yo 2. When I first got the knife, the blade would not drop unless I pushed the lock in hard. I have broken it in since then, but it still sticks sometimes and is not nearly as smooth as the Junior's comp lock. However, I bought from the first batch, so this may have changed with the later batches.
I agree. I forgot to mention that my Para 2's lock was smooth from the beginning as well. No problems.phaust wrote:There's probably some variation across knives. My two Yo2's are much easier to unlock than my (one) PM2 and is much smoother.
The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
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Phonebooks Hate Me..
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i think the compression lock knife is the easiest knife to disengage! also one of the strongest... I'm baffled by how you could ever write a post like this about one of the best knife lock designs.
Jules: "I want you to go in that bag and find my wallet."
Vincent: "Which one is it?"
Jules: "It's the one that says 'bad motherfuc*er'."
Vincent: "Which one is it?"
Jules: "It's the one that says 'bad motherfuc*er'."
Don't get me wrong - I really like the compression lock and admire its technical ingenuity and strengths - but it just doesn't work for some people, just like any other lock is subject to individual preferences.Phonebooks Hate Me.. wrote:i think the compression lock knife is the easiest knife to disengage! also one of the strongest... I'm baffled by how you could ever write a post like this about one of the best knife lock designs.
Also consider that in spite of its brilliance and strength, it's not perfect. Blade retention in the closed position is very weak with most comp lock knifes. This is presumably why the Tuff originally included a comp lock but went to a frame lock.
JNewell wrote:Don't get me wrong - I really like the compression lock and admire its technical ingenuity and strengths - but it just doesn't work for some people, just like any other lock is subject to individual preferences.
Also consider that in spite of its brilliance and strength, it's not perfect. Blade retention in the closed position is very weak with most comp lock knifes. This is presumably why the Tuff originally included a comp lock but went to a frame lock.
I dunno man, the detent on my Yo 2 is every bit as strong as any other knife i own except a few lock backs which typically seem to be a little too hard to open IMO.
As for not working for everyone, i really feel like i could help with this. I initially made 2 mistakes when handling this knife trying to unlock it, the second of which i did for years until it dawned on me how dumb it was. I made it a point to mention this in the little review i did of my Yo 2, which you can see here. Skip to 5:14 if the video doesn't already start you there.
[video=youtube_share;nJlAWi1FAJw]http://youtu.be/nJlAWi1FAJw?t=5m14s[/video]
It's really as simple as how you hold the knife and what fingers you use to press the lock tab. Using it left handed is obviously different, but i honestly don't see why any righty can't successfully unlock this knife with incredible ease doing it how i show in the video.
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