FRN Caly - am I alone?

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Interested in an FRN Caly?

Yes, yes I am
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The Deacon wrote:Some folks want an ultra lightweight knife, and unlined FRN is still the easiest way to achieve that. The G-10 and CF versions of the Caly 3 are both 1.1 oz heavier than the FRN Calypso Jr. If you're looking for a minimal weight Caly 3/3.5 without the cost of molds, I wonder if a Caly/UKPK hybrid using unlined G-10, perhaps with semi-nested pivot washers for smoothness might be feasible and worth trying.
I would buy a knife like that, and yes, the weight is the reason i love the Calypso Jr. and the UKPK. I already have enough junk to carry around, cell phone, change, keys, wallet, ect.
Every little bit adds up. I grew up carring a Delica, lady bug, Endura and other non lined knives. As far as the strength, I never had a problem with unlined FRN. Once I found the Calypso Jr with the Choil, there was no going back to the previously mentioned knives. Nowadays i carry either a Caly 3, caly 3.5, and some times the Para 2. I miss the light weight of the old FRN models, but like i said, hate to give up the choil and i prefer tip up. Tip down is the only minor turnoff of the Calypso Jr for me and the fact that if i loose this knife it will be hard to replace.
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Spyderco should just produce a million different variants of every knife they have and then we'll all be happy.
Spyderco please make a wire clip version of the Manbug/Ladybug!
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DedRok wrote:Spyderco should just produce a million different variants of every knife they have and then we'll all be happy.
Ha, yeah no design will please everyone. Everybody that is a aficionado of knives will want something tweeked to their liking.
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Yes, it's hard being us. :)

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Just want to bring this thread back up and see if there might be any more interest. After re-reading Sal's last post I belive that I can get along with liners as well. The 3.5 would be great but I realize that the 3 would be more people friendly overall.
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#46

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I love the FRN Delica. FRN really suits that knife. It's workman like, but not elegant.

I really love my Caly 3.5 ZDP with CF. The CF and extra shine from the 420J2 layer over the ZDP make it very elegant looking.
Would I like a FRN Caly???? I'll have to think about that.
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You need some coaxing, JN? Like the Chinese woman I work with says, "I know you like". :)

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I love to see another sprint run of the old FRN Calypso Jr, but I'm not so much interested in an FRN Caly 3. Performance wise, I'd think the difference between a knife like that and the FFG Delica 4 would be negligable.
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Jazz wrote:I see everyone wants a Caly JR., but what I started the thread for was an FRN Caly3,
- best wishes, Jazz.
I am still with you. I have strong preferences to Caly3:no swedge, tip up carry, liners, bigger hump with jimpings, wire clip.
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Ah Jazz, my knife brother from another mother; we have such similar taste. An frn Caly 3 would be just about perfect. NO liners for me. Wire clip, D4 texture, jimping & a lanyard hole please!
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bh49 wrote:I am still with you. I have strong preferences to Caly3:no swedge, tip up carry, liners, bigger hump with jimpings, wire clip.
I second, Roman.

Although I would probably enjoy the wider grip of the Caly Jr, the Caly 3 is such a sweet knife. To be able to get it in FRN, at a lower price than the G10 model, would be awesome. Put it in different colors and I would make sure to give some out as gifts.

Sal, I think stainless steel liners are a good idea. But I have a question. Since you would likely need to create new tooling for this, is there a possibility that this model would see production in Golden or Taichung?
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D1omedes wrote:Since you would likely need to create new tooling for this, is there a possibility that this model would see production in Golden or Taichung?
Anthony,
You don't like Moki? They are making Calypsos forever.
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araneae wrote:Ah Jazz, my knife brother from another mother; we have such similar taste. An frn Caly 3 would be just about perfect. NO liners for me. Wire clip, D4 texture, jimping & a lanyard hole please!
Yes to the lanyard hole too, bro. I'm okay with or without liners, but the lightness of linerless is really nice. The FRN UKPK's are so nice to carry.

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Jazz wrote:Yes to the lanyard hole too, bro. I'm okay with or without liners, but the lightness of linerless is really nice. The FRN UKPK's are so nice to carry.

- best wishes, Jazz.
Lanyard hole is a must for me. I would be interested if it were lighter than the G-10 & CF versions, and if it included a lanyard hole like the 3.5. I should mention that I really like the 3.5 as-is, in both Super Blue and the CF/ZDP variants, but a light FRN version would also be great.
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bh49 wrote:Anthony,
You don't like Moki? They are making Calypsos forever.
I do, Roman. But switching the manufacturing location would enable American steels to be used. ;)
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D1omedes wrote:I do, Roman. But switching the manufacturing location would enable American steels to be used. ;)
I love the idea for couple reasons, but not sure if this will be efficient. New mold: yes, but the rest of the tooling is old. And may be will not be efficient to move and new company to go through learning curve of manufacturing, which can be expensive.
Still, love the idea :)
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If we can't have the FRN, then can we PLEASE get a sprint of G10 Caly 3? I don't care what color. I want one bad.

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VG10, please. :)

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sal wrote:Good info. Thanx. What would be the preferred texture?

My leaning would still be for a lined model. While the wire clip doesn't need a liner, the pivots gain some for having them.....but that too is up for discussion. Skeletonized liners don't add much weight, but add rigidity, kinda like an internal skeleton.

I carry a 3.5 quite a bit. It's legal in my part of the world and large enough for food processing (fruit, etc). I also like FRN for it's toughness and lower final cost. Tooling is expensive so the investment must be considered as a long term model.

We felt that the Slipits that we're making in FRN would be around long term because of the trend in laws worldwide is to non-lockers. The UK, Squeak, Pingo models are legal in most places as EDC's.

The Caly 3/3.5 is more of an afi model and we'd have to determine if the market is large enough to support the tooling costs long term.

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I remember when the evolved Caly 3 design first hit shelves, it was said that if the demand was there, an FRN version could be in the works. I've been ready and willing to buy one since that first mention.

I understand that the Caly models are a bit more of an afi design, and that it would also fit into the same niche as the Delica (and Endura if you also moved the Caly 3.5 to FRN as well). My current EDC is a Delica 4 black FRN with flat ground blade. I absolutely love that knife; however, there are a few reasons that I would be interested in an FRN Caly 3. A couple of my reasons are reasons I'd like to see the Caly 3 get FRN, and a couple of them are attributes that the Caly 3 has that would make an FRN version a better knife than my Delica.

1. The bi-directional texturing on the newer FRN knives is, IMO, the best traction pattern ever put onto a knife handle. It provides grip at the right time but allows the hand to move over it with ease when necessary as well. One thing I've often found with other knives (especially G-10 handled knives) is that they either don't have enough traction, or if they have enough it's abrasive to the skin because it's so heavy. The FRN bi-directional texturing gives you a high traction knife that is easy on the hands when you're not looking to hold on tight.

2. I prefer FRN as a material for handles in my user knives. I own (and have used) plenty of knives with other handle materials, but they just don't work as well for me. I posted in a thread I started in the byrd forum that Spyderco and Kershaw/ZT are my go to companies for knife buying/collecting. I own quite a few knives from both, and the bottom line is that my Delica 4 is the knife in my pocket 99% of the time because it just flat out works better for me than any of my other blades. It is only on rare occasions that I carry something other than the D4.

3. I love the leaf blade shape. If I had one complaint about the D4 it would be that I prefer the full flat ground leaf blade. I have a full flat ground Delica, but it's just not quite the same for me. Performance wise, I'm not sure there would be a huge difference, but it's a preference.

4. Wire clip. Again, more a preference than a performance difference, but I'd like to have a wire clip in my EDC over the Delica 4 clip. Although the Delica 4 clip is near perfect, the wire clip would be just a hair better, IMO.

For these reasons, I think a FRN Caly 3 would be a winner.
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Any update to this? I'd love to see a FRN Caly 3 with the Delica FRN texture.
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