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xavierdoc wrote: Could you explain the difference between "Low toughness... and edge stability" yet "high compression resistance and wear resistance"?
Toughness is the ability to handle a load which is implied in a very short time frame, i.e., an impact. It is typically measured by charpy or similar impact measurements. It is important for chipping resistance.

Compression resistance is a form of strength, the ability to handle a load which is applied over a very long time, specifically it is a compressive load (squashing). It is typically measured by a Rockwell measurement. It keeps the edge from getting dented and is also highly correlated to the property which keeps the edge from rolling.

Wear resistance is the ability to resist material loss by a scraping effect, it is normally measured by pin on disk or similar measurements, i.e., put something hard on a piece of steel and see how much material you can scrape off. It allows a steel to hold a low to moderate sharpness for a long time.

Edge stability is a measure of how well a steel will hold a very high sharpness at a very low edge angle.
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Thanks Cliff and Mastiff.

So, simplistically, a Rex121 blade might not take (or at least hold) a fine/low angle edge, but will hold an edge for a long time in a slicing role. It will not be suitable for chopping.

Fair enough?
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xavierdoc wrote:
So, simplistically, a Rex121 blade might not take (or at least hold) a fine/low angle edge, but will hold an edge for a long time in a slicing role. It will not be suitable for chopping.
Yes, that would be the general characteristics. 121 REX is actually a carbide insert replacement so it is half way between a steel and pure carbide. My main curiosity would be does it sharpen like steel or like carbide/ceramic. The downsides to it would be that the edge would have little ability to sustain any plastic deformation at all, it is just going to fail by chipping so lateral loads would be a concern. Care would just need to be taken to use it as a cutting tool only because if you did chip it then repairing it is not going to be easy.
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Lots of testing to be done yet on REX 121,
The Mastiff wrote:Cliff, I'm just guessing that the main form of edge degradation would be chipping or crumbling. At least at the thin edges I like. This is just a guess though. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to try it , just like the 15V blade I'm having made but I don't see it being anything real practical at full hardness.

The charts make it look pretty low on toughness. We'll get reports fairly soon as Farid is making a run of the T1ooo ( ? ) in Rex 121.
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faridknives wrote:Right now working on the CPM REX 121 'K2' folders as well as the CPM-REX 121 mules. I should be able to show a pic of the REX 121 mule soon.
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ooooh, anxious to see the finished results. How many belts worn so far :p
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K294, please.
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