Pygmy Warrior and Pocket Hobbit?!?

[Mike Sastre]

Here's some quick pics of the H1 Warrior sheath inverted. Worn under a cover garment, draw to slash is very stealthy as it comes from low line. Sequence is draw to midline slash, just like BT showed me with the Stealth Warrior set-up.

[Roshi]

I just got my Mike Sastre sheath for the H1 Warrior and it is perfect for concealed and open carry.

I find the Spec Ops sheaths overly large and noisey. I suppose they work well with combat gear.

So what would make my Warrior perfect? I'd like to replace the plastic scales with rough canvas micarta scales. Does anyone know of anyone who is making replacement scales?

[Taldozer]

Mike,

I would like to get one of your sheaths for the Warrior H1. I am ready now!

Cheers,
Troy

[Greg Walker]

Chris,
Tight lipped because as Sgt. Schultz would say, "I know nothing". Anyway, it wouldn't be my place to add any grist to the rumor mills. If you ask me if I think it'd be cool, the answer is yes on both accounts. I put sheaths on the prototype Pygmy Warriors for REKAT before they closed, and it's a neat little SD fixed blade about the size of a Pocket Hobbit, but thinner in the handle area. Nasty teeth! The PH has a cult following, and if anybody could do a re-issue justice, Spyderco gets my vote, though Pocket Hobbit is a misnomer as it was intended to deploy from a breakfront sheath. REKAT did put some pocket clips on a few when requested. I wouldn't hold my breath on either one, but it is something I'd like to see.

Mike - that's a nice bit of intel on the breakfront sheath - original design and deployment concepts are oft lost over time if ever known at all.

[Greg Walker]

Dr. Detroit,
There's another member of the Warrior family called the "Stealth Warrior" that I'd love to see produced because i want one, there was only one made, and I haven't been able to talk Bob out of it yet. It is a guardless Warrior with an 8-9" blade that he's worn on the belt, handle down under a cover garment. Curvature of the blade insures that it doesn't "print" while seated, and the draw is almost invisible as it is coming up from a low line - and it comes out cutting immediately on the drawstroke. Sneaky, but that can be a good thing. Any of the Warrior line, including the H1, can be carried this way with the correct type of sheath. I'll post some illustrating pictures when I get a chance. I do know that both Sal and Mike were shown the Stealth, so who knows, maybe it'll happen if there is enough demand to do the whole Warrior series. By the way, Michael Janich did a great job with his booklet on the development of the Warrior series!! Highly recommend getting it - comes free with the H1, but is worth getting even if you don't purchase the knife.

Mike - am going to order one of your Kydex sheathes for my SpyderCo Warrior - the pics on this thread look great and just what the knife needs - Pocket Hobbit is all-business offense/defense folder much in-line with the Civilian. If you're going to carry double edged it is a good idea to know what the laws in your area or elsewhere you might carry are. Education/Training continue to be the key to making best decisions before, during and afterward. Again, very neat to see SpyderCo evolving and introducing these designs from Bob T/REKAT - nice collaboration.

[Blerv]

Any chance these would be released with different names than "Pocket Warrior" and "Pocket Hobbit"?

I'm not a knife maker but those names are kinda...meh. IMHO. :)

[SpyderNut]

Any chance these would be released with different names than "Pocket Warrior" and "Pocket Hobbit"?

I'm not a knife maker but those names are kinda...meh. IMHO. :)

But, but, what about all of us "Lord of the Rings" fans, Blerv? What will we do without the "Pocket Hobbit"? Well, I suppose I could settle for something like the "Pocket Gandalf"... :D

[Blerv]

Lol! The "Pocket" isnt sitting well with me just on a joke basis. A boring alternative would be, "___ Folder" perhaps. I do like Tolkien as well and probably wouldn't have named it after his works in the first place (but that's neither here nor there)..

Really cool knives regardless. I like them a ton. Just personal/legalistic nit-pickery :) .


Edit: guh, nevermind. "Pygmy Warrior" is pretty cool. I misread.

[DemskeetSkeet]

I haven't had the time to search/look so I was wondering if their are pictures of the Pygmy Warrior Sheath that will be shipping with the knife?

[KBar666]

I know I'd want one

[KBar666]

Also for the Pocket Hobbit I'm sure something could be done in way of making it somewhat slimmer at least.
Anyone familiar with the Emerson Rhino. That was proven effective tool in SEAL Teams. A double Edged design.

[Greg Walker]

Big folders like Al Mar's original SERE design, the Emerson Rhino and POHOB (Pocket Hobbit) are better carried on military load bearing harness / MOLY body armor simply due to their size and having immediately access/availability to the user. Same for LE tactical teams, search and rescue, and so on. Street carry for citizens makes these big folders a bit more of a challenge primarily due to everyday comfort. Other considerations are visibility and type of clothing one normally wears daily. If not a SD primary purchase the bigger folders are nice to tuck into a tote or day bag, outside pockets or attached sterile pouch that does not draw attention. Major reason Mar came out with the smaller mid-size SERE folder back in the day and the current SERE 2000 reflects the broader ease of carry thought process, as well. Again, Mike S's insight as to original POHOB carry being breakfront Kydex sheath helps define initial concept and thought process behind the larger folders from then REKAT.

[KBar666]

Big folders like Al Mar's original SERE design, the Emerson Rhino and POHOB (Pocket Hobbit) are better carried on military load bearing harness / MOLY body armor simply due to their size and having immediately access/availability to the user. Same for LE tactical teams, search and rescue, and so on. Street carry for citizens makes these big folders a bit more of a challenge primarily due to everyday comfort. Other considerations are visibility and type of clothing one normally wears daily. If not a SD primary purchase the bigger folders are nice to tuck into a tote or day bag, outside pockets or attached sterile pouch that does not draw attention. Major reason Mar came out with the smaller mid-size SERE folder back in the day and the current SERE 2000 reflects the broader ease of carry thought process, as well. Again, Mike S's insight as to original POHOB carry being breakfront Kydex sheath helps define initial concept and thought process behind the larger folders from then REKAT.

Personally I don't mind I can and probally would carry it either way. Large or not. Unless for whatever given reson it is problem matter with needing to conceal it, which could be there at times in certain lines of work. but otherwise I'd still carry it if its good,funtional and depedable design.

[Greg Walker]

"What's that? Do you have a Hobbit in your Pocket or are you just glad to see me?" :eek:

Sorry...couldn't help myself :o

[KBar666]

"What's that? Do you have a Hobbit in your Pocket or are you just glad to see me?" :eek:

Sorry...couldn't help myself :o

Haha classic.

[freewheeling]

I'd love a pocket Hobbit. Please keep the serrations on the back spine.

We've had some great original H-1 fixed blades. I'll be excited to see the first original (not using a delica or endura frame) folder, especially if it's a Pocket Hobbit.

If the serrations are kept on the back that defeats one of the primary purposes of a folding knife, which is legal carry. My understanding is that most jurisdictions forbid pocket knives that have an edge on both sides of the blade, otherwise folding karambits would be made that way. I may be wrong, however. Often am.

[Greg Walker]

In the vast majority of states a double edged knife is considered a dagger and daggers are considered illegal dangerous weapons and charged as such - as is the case here in Oregon unless you are an LEO (and in compliance with your department's policies on edged weapon carry for duty/off duty) or a member of the military engaged in training at the time of carry.

A Pocket Hobbit with original blade design will get ya in trouble real quick if the above is true in your state. If there is an evolution where single edge is available for a PH that would resolve the most glaring issue/concern. That's why I like my REKAT Savant. Essentially a Hobbit blade design in single edge in a compact package.