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yobohadi wrote:
I just wish I had the gear he has and the time he has to test it! :)

That may be where the disdain comes from. He started up from nothing, got himself some credibility and now he gets all the cool toys. hats off to him.
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phillipsted wrote: He annoys me to no end - but his practical experience-based knowledge of products is really useful. I always learn something about the product after watching
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I also think many things that he does are annoying but I also agree that many of the things that he does with the certain thing that he is reviewing such as he says in this review, taking it backpacking and using the knife or with the run n guns, as he calls them, and the takes the gun out to the desert and shoots it and uses it so he can give an opinion on how he likes it after using it. His opinions are experienced instead of someone sitting in front of a camera saying,"well, it is a good knife" even if all they have done with it is opened it a couple times and it has sat in their drawer for as long as it is until they do the review, and the same with guns. This is one of the reasons that I like nutnfancy's reviews. Actually, for gun stuff I like Hickok45 the best...
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FroOchie wrote:That may be where the disdain comes from. He started up from nothing, got himself some credibility and now he gets all the cool toys. hats off to him.
Or the fact his videos use to be precise and to the point, but since quadrupled in length and the first half is spend talking about irrelevant subjects. Not to mention his ego has ballooned too. Still a respectable reviewer though, not many people are willing to haul 80 lbs of stuff to middle of a mountain to test them.

Although I don't mind the long videos as much, gives me something to listen to while running the treadmill.
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I can't name you a guy where their popularity or lack there of didn't play with their ego. If he stays a good person, I could never fault him for that.
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FroOchie wrote:That may be where the disdain comes from. He started up from nothing, got himself some credibility and now he gets all the cool toys. hats off to him.
I have nothing against the guy. He's an entertainer and an educator if you are new to the world of folding knives. Problem is in places like this we have folks like Sal, Ed Schempp, and Michael Janich frequenting the forums. There are a plethora of other makers and designers who have worked with Spyderco, other brands, and do their own projects as well. Many others who are hardcore aficionados and collectors.

I don't know anything compared to those people and readily admit it. Problem is, Nut wouldn't. His opinions aren't clarified as such often enough so they eventually become dogma chanted from the internets.
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Blerv wrote:I have nothing against the guy. He's an entertainer and an educator if you are new to the world of folding knives.
That's an important point. Many people who are new take his words as gospel because oh he knows so much, but to many people here what he says is nothing new, it's just another person's opinion.
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Enough about putting Nut'n down please! It can be fun to make lighthearted fun of someone who like all of us is not perfect. To keep harping about it gets a bit old.

Who among us can claim to have never been annoying at one time or another because of their opinions and their way of presenting them? Most likely most of the rest here at one time or another have done the same at one time or another.

The Nut'n bashing is a very unwelcome diversion :( This thread has turned screwy.
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I dont know who is bashing him. These are just opinions and he has taken the celebrity spotlight. It's expected but I doubt any literal hate is being presented.

I think he does a ton of good and certainly isn't a birthday clown. He just isn't the undesputed sage of knifery.
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I really do not think anyone here is "hating" on NutnFancy, im sure he is a great guy,with a VAST degree of knowledge on knifes and firearms, its his over the top presentations that turn me off, thats all.
I will continue to watch his reviews.
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At the end of the day if you've decided to enter the public arena then you've decided to be the subject of opinion. Its like a celebrity that wants privacy...it just doesn't work that way. My hopes would be if he can be critical of a product, we the audience can be critical of his product. I'm with Blerv, I didn't see any bashing of him personally just some dislike for what he does.
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Nobody hating on nutn? I dunno but I just hate him wasting my time with a lot of chatter before going on to the nitty grit of the "review". That time wasting is why I don't watch him. Why can't we feel strongly and express what we feel about him? Call me a hater but I hate people who waste my time.

By doing what's he's doing, he's making himself a target(of public opinion), so if he's not upset by people firing on him, why should anybody else be?
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jzmtl wrote:That's an important point. Many people who are new take his words as gospel because oh he knows so much, but to many people here what he says is nothing new, it's just another person's opinion.
Although he usually backs up his opinion with video proof of actually testing the knife. I think his videos are a great resource, a huge majority of the people buying a knife really don't care about the composition of steel the blade is made of they just want to see what it can stand up to and do value his opinion because of his reputation. The small minority that care about learning more come to these sites and filter through other opinions to get what they want. Also, you don't usually see many people disputing his opinion (which is why your quote is funny, he tells you in his videos that his opinion isn't gospel) you just see the masses attack him on his mannerisms or his personality in an attempt to diminish his findings.

I have a lot of respect for the guy to tell Spyderco or any of the other manufacturers that their product is lacking and how to make it better. If I were a manufacturer I would love to hear that over the fanbois fawning over everything I produced and personally attacking anyone that may say something bad about my products.

Bottom line is: If you bought a knife that he gives a good review on and don't do any other research, you can be assured to have a good knife.
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Opinions are opinions. I wouldn't undeniably trust the praise or loathing of any reviewer.

Never forget to have your own perspective. It's the only one worth a dang.
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Back on the subject... Was the BD1 version's price-point determined before or after the steel swap from the planned BD75? Just curious Sal.
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yobohadi wrote:Although he usually backs up his opinion with video proof of actually testing the knife. I think his videos are a great resource, a huge majority of the people buying a knife really don't care about the composition of steel the blade is made of they just want to see what it can stand up to and do value his opinion because of his reputation. The small minority that care about learning more come to these sites and filter through other opinions to get what they want. Also, you don't usually see many people disputing his opinion (which is why your quote is funny, he tells you in his videos that his opinion isn't gospel) you just see the masses attack him on his mannerisms or his personality in an attempt to diminish his findings.

I have a lot of respect for the guy to tell Spyderco or any of the other manufacturers that their product is lacking and how to make it better. If I were a manufacturer I would love to hear that over the fanbois fawning over everything I produced and personally attacking anyone that may say something bad about my products.

Bottom line is: If you bought a knife that he gives a good review on and don't do any other research, you can be assured to have a good knife.
And that too is opinion, not fact. ;)
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dbcad wrote:Enough about putting Nut'n down please! It can be fun to make lighthearted fun of someone who like all of us is not perfect. To keep harping about it gets a bit old.

Who among us can claim to have never been annoying at one time or another because of their opinions and their way of presenting them? Most likely most of the rest here at one time or another have done the same at one time or another.

The Nut'n bashing is a very unwelcome diversion :( This thread has turned screwy.
Yes I agree. I started this forum just out of interest to see if anyone else purchased a manix 2 after his review. I find Nutnfancy very helpful and he collaborates with companies to hook us knife guys up with all sorts of discounts and info. I also don't mind his long reviews because since they are all the same procedure and the videos are on youtube so I can just fast forward to what section I want to hear about. His review was just the feather that broke the horses back for me and was interested if anyone else experienced this as well. Now onward, for the people who already own one, does the pinned construction hold up, is it strong?
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eitenbuffalo34 wrote:Yes I agree. I started this forum just out of interest to see if anyone else purchased a manix 2 after his review. I find Nutnfancy very helpful and he collaborates with companies to hook us knife guys up with all sorts of discounts and info. I also don't mind his long reviews because since they are all the same procedure and the videos are on youtube so I can just fast forward to what section I want to hear about. His review was just the feather that broke the horses back for me and was interested if anyone else experienced this as well. Now onward, for the people who already own one, does the pinned construction hold up, is it strong?
Doesn't nutn say so on his review? ;)
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chuck_roxas45 wrote:Doesn't nutn say so on his review? ;)
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Sure, Nutn's reviews are a bit long and he does tend to ramble a bit.
Do I agree with everything he says...no. YMMV :)
Are his vids the best done on Youtube....no. But they sure aint the worst by a long shot.

[INDENT]Off subject, but IMHO this is one of the best knife vids I've ever seen on Youtube, dang near PBS quality, on the GEC Northfield UN-X-LD Whaler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJUQltdr ... e=g-user-u[/INDENT]


Over the years I've picked up a lot of information from Nutnfancy and gotten a lot of ideas. Can one really ask for more?

Plus he is spot on about the Translucent Blue Manix 2!
His vid didn't make me buy it, I already had it. It was nice to seem him rave about it. 11 on a scale of 10 might be pushing it, but not by far.
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eitenbuffalo34 wrote:Now onward, for the people who already own one, does the pinned construction hold up, is it strong?
It's FAR too early to know if it will hold up. However, Spyderco (and other companies) have been using pinned construction (aka rivets) for a while to say the least.

There are 15+ year old Delica's that have been to the 9 circle of **** and back and still see carry time. As the Manix2 has a thicker blade and a sophisticated rib sub-structure of FRCP I reckon it's MUCH more stiff than models of the 90's.

Still, people are gonna gripe and moan that a $60 knife can't be disassembled like a box of Legos and that it might (a big might) develop play over a decade. However, this might put it in perspective:

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