Dragonfly in VG10 G10 or in FRN ZDP-189?
Dragonfly in VG10 G10 or in FRN ZDP-189?
The cost is not the issue but in your own experiences which steel is better? Which one do you recommend? I heard ZDP-189 is harder to sharpen than many steels but that is not really a big concern for me. I have the proper tools and patience to sharpen. I am also looking for rust resistance. I know VG10 holds up, but how does ZDP-189 do?
Thanks,
George
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George
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Well im going on a camping and kayaking down the Wisconsin river, so I would like to bring a smaller knife that is rust resistant. Also one that holds an edge. Other than that, just for everyday use.jabba359 wrote:What is the intended use of the Dragonfly? Which steel I would recommend depends on what tasks it would most often be performing.
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If you don't mind the sharpening aspect, then H1 is certainly the way to go when on water. While it may initially lack in edge-holding (unless you get it serrated, in which case it holds its edge like ZDP does, according to tests), the rust-proof nature of H1 makes it a great camping and near-water knife.
Im looking at getting the H1 d'fly too. I will take it with me when i go to the beach/fishing and also if i need to use it in the kitchen, i wont have to worry about giving it a nice bath afterwards.
I LOVE the look of the g-10 d'fly but money is the issue with me. I dont see why that small of a knife has to be almost $80 (>Manix 2). i think the pricing is off there, and i prob will not be getting the g-10 until some pricing adjustments are made....or it is gifted :)
I LOVE the look of the g-10 d'fly but money is the issue with me. I dont see why that small of a knife has to be almost $80 (>Manix 2). i think the pricing is off there, and i prob will not be getting the g-10 until some pricing adjustments are made....or it is gifted :)
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I would totally go with the G-10 verision. Ill be the first to admit I SUCK at sharpening ZDP, but I can handle VG-10. Also I like to leave my knives suck out in the snow for a week before I grab them again
. I just love VG-10, so this is very bias! But also the G10 handles feel much more complete to me, then FRN. Well I hope that helps!

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I carry the ZDP-189 Dragonfly almost more than any other knife - it is great for daily tasks, and it takes and holds a wicked edge. If you have the funds to buy two - I would highly recommend the serrated H1 Salt model. This is a good complement to the ZDP knife - and gives you an option for taking the knife fishing, camping, etc.
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For your purposes, H1.
For overall uses, ZDP.
For plain edge, not H1.
The Plain Edge H1 will get harder and stronger as you use it and sharpen it, but the D'fly being such a small blade seems to shed much steel before this happens fully. The SpyderEdge version is already work hardened into the serrations, thus resulting in a harder blade from the start. I've heard of as much as half a centimeter being shaved off in 6 months on a PE H1 D'fly.
For overall uses, ZDP.
For plain edge, not H1.
The Plain Edge H1 will get harder and stronger as you use it and sharpen it, but the D'fly being such a small blade seems to shed much steel before this happens fully. The SpyderEdge version is already work hardened into the serrations, thus resulting in a harder blade from the start. I've heard of as much as half a centimeter being shaved off in 6 months on a PE H1 D'fly.
The steels are different. Neither is "better".
Laminating steels is more a work-flow model than benefit oriented. Superblue makes zdp look like H1 and it was solid blank production from Moki.rosconey wrote:zdp can rust-thats why you see it with a coating or another steel laminated more than most steels
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The ZDP-189 Dragonfly is very light and may be a good intro to ZDP-189. To me, it's not hard to sharpen - it can just take longer. :)
The G-10 VG-10 Dragonfly has a more solid feel, and maybe a "classier" look to it. VG-10 is very quick & easy to sharpen.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel a need to use H1 steel for some limited fresh water exposure.
The Dragonfly is a nice little pocket knife, but if the intended purpose is camping/outdoor use, I'd want something bigger as a primary knife.
The G-10 VG-10 Dragonfly has a more solid feel, and maybe a "classier" look to it. VG-10 is very quick & easy to sharpen.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel a need to use H1 steel for some limited fresh water exposure.
The Dragonfly is a nice little pocket knife, but if the intended purpose is camping/outdoor use, I'd want something bigger as a primary knife.