F&F on CF Stretch
- chuck_roxas45
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That's really bad, I would be up in arms if I got that.
There, I hope that's what you wanted to hear.
There, I hope that's what you wanted to hear.
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IMHO I Understand
We all pour our heart and soul, most of us, into a new acquistion. When we spend over a 100.00, for example only, we get perturbed and let down when things are not perfect. For myself, seeing a perfect Spyderco is like a symphony and the flawed one, a cacauphony of crows.
It has been said many times on this forum... "we are a spoiled bunch" because we have come to expect so much.
On one hand, human hands still make our knives. On the other hand, we see the Spyderco craftsman as a flawless artist who can do no wrong.
Somewhere along the line, this blurs and our emotions take over.
Is it possible, as very serious enthusiasts, we project our human shortcomings onto these objects of desire, in hopes, that they are perfect, since we are not?
ok, enough baloney... let's play with knives
have a good night everyone :eek:
It has been said many times on this forum... "we are a spoiled bunch" because we have come to expect so much.
On one hand, human hands still make our knives. On the other hand, we see the Spyderco craftsman as a flawless artist who can do no wrong.
Somewhere along the line, this blurs and our emotions take over.
Is it possible, as very serious enthusiasts, we project our human shortcomings onto these objects of desire, in hopes, that they are perfect, since we are not?
ok, enough baloney... let's play with knives
have a good night everyone :eek:
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I will have to check mine when I get back home this weekend. I do not recall this issue and I am sure we all got ours at the same place. IIRC there is a very tiny gap; I know because I sqeezed it and lube came out. I do not recall my gap being like the Grand Canyon 30k ft from an airliner though :)
Its definitely a bummer when you spend $180 and end up with something that doesn't meet normal standards. My blade was a touch off center, but I fixed that by messing with the pivot screw; its great now. I do not recall smoothness, but I think it was good, no grittyness.
I will post pics of mine this weekend when I get back.
Its definitely a bummer when you spend $180 and end up with something that doesn't meet normal standards. My blade was a touch off center, but I fixed that by messing with the pivot screw; its great now. I do not recall smoothness, but I think it was good, no grittyness.
I will post pics of mine this weekend when I get back.
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Hairline gaps, like the one in your photos, between a midlock's lockbar and the liners on one or both sides are not all that uncommon.
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Absolutely not! You said you couldn't see what I was talking about and asked if I had more photos. I was just honestly trying to figure out what you weren't seeing. I'm sorry you got offended, and thank you for the input.mikerestivo wrote:Are you being sarcastic with me? I sure hope not.
The Stretch is made in Seki City, Japan. I have two others (FRN models), and they're tight as a drum--no gaps. From what others are saying, not all CF models have the gap, either.Slash wrote:Where is the stretch made? Because all of them seem to have the gap.
Yes, this is it. I'm not a complete idiot; I don't expect "perfection". But I don't expect to spend this kind of money and get a knife that fails the "5-second test". That's where I unbox it, and within a few seconds, find something cosmetically wrong with it. That gap really jumps out at me. If all the CF Stretches had it, I could live with it. But I don't want one that barely squeaked by QC.INFRNL wrote:Its definitely a bummer when you spend $180 and end up with something that doesn't meet normal standards.
After opening this thread, I looked at my other Stretches, Delicas, and Tenacious, and couldn't find obvious problems like I did with the CFS. My main FRN Stretch does have a weird little notch cut into the FRN. It took days or weeks for me to notice it the first time. But then I got another one and it had the exact same thing. It doesn't bother me at all.
FWIW, the lockup on the CFS was awesome. No play and when the lock engaged, it was loud and sounded solid.
It's on its way back to the seller now. I've requested a replacement.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but very few things are universal. Fact is, whether you like it or not, whether you can live with it or not, the gap you're complaining about is quite common on the CF Stretch. So, by any objective standard, yours did not just "squeak by QC" any more than a gap approximately the same width as the strand of lint you admittedly failed to notice could be compared to the Grand Canyon by a reasonable person.-F1 wrote:Yes, this is it. I'm not a complete idiot; I don't expect "perfection". But I don't expect to spend this kind of money and get a knife that fails the "5-second test". That's where I unbox it, and within a few seconds, find something cosmetically wrong with it. That gap really jumps out at me. If all the CF Stretches had it, I could live with it. But I don't want one that barely squeaked by QC.
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1. In a way, it's good to know this problem is common. I don't understand how that could be, unless it was not cost effective for them to correct it, or they just didn't notice it in time, but OK.
2. The lint? Irrelevant. I wasn't examining the knife at all at the time; I was focused on getting the knife ... focused in the camera.
3. I am not the one who compared the gap to the Grand Canyon. I did use the phrase "empty napkin holder", but both references were obviously meant in jest. The point is that no matter the actual size of the gap, it's obvious at a glance because the other quadrants are so nicely and tightly machined.
4. I think if they can machine 3 of the 4 quadrants properly, they could have gotten them all right. And of course, they did get them all right on some number of these knives. If they couldn't get them all right, all the time, maybe they should have made all 4 with lint-width gaps! At least then it would be consistent and symmetrical.
5. I should have searched before posting. I have seen several threads and many photos from other people regarding this exact issue. I didn't realize this problem was so common, but I should have known based on other things I've seen.
2. The lint? Irrelevant. I wasn't examining the knife at all at the time; I was focused on getting the knife ... focused in the camera.
3. I am not the one who compared the gap to the Grand Canyon. I did use the phrase "empty napkin holder", but both references were obviously meant in jest. The point is that no matter the actual size of the gap, it's obvious at a glance because the other quadrants are so nicely and tightly machined.
4. I think if they can machine 3 of the 4 quadrants properly, they could have gotten them all right. And of course, they did get them all right on some number of these knives. If they couldn't get them all right, all the time, maybe they should have made all 4 with lint-width gaps! At least then it would be consistent and symmetrical.
5. I should have searched before posting. I have seen several threads and many photos from other people regarding this exact issue. I didn't realize this problem was so common, but I should have known based on other things I've seen.
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Never noticed a gap on my CF Stretch which has been my main EDC for years.
A closer look shows a slightly more visible line but no gap.
A quick look at some of my other lockbacks doesn't show any gaps either.
Although I can understand this being not uncommon it isn't exactly common either and slightly puzzling why so many CF Stretches would seem to have it.
I doubt I would have been too upset if I would have found a gap though as the CF Stretch is a wonderful knife but not really a looker imo.
A closer look shows a slightly more visible line but no gap.
A quick look at some of my other lockbacks doesn't show any gaps either.
Although I can understand this being not uncommon it isn't exactly common either and slightly puzzling why so many CF Stretches would seem to have it.
I doubt I would have been too upset if I would have found a gap though as the CF Stretch is a wonderful knife but not really a looker imo.
My humble Spydie harem consists of a mere 11 knives ( counting the UKPK that's in the mail.....WOO HOO !!!!!! :D ) so my frame of reference is admitedly limited.
Neverthless, the degree of quality and precision I've come to expect from Spyderco would prohibit me from accepting this flaw, regardless of whether some see it as "normal", or see it as "The Grand Canyon as seen from an airliner...". LOL !!
The salient fact here, boys and girls, is that...... IT'S F***ED UP !!!!
And that S#!+ just don't fly coming from a premium,first-world manufacturer !!! End of story.
That's why I buy from Cutlery Shoppe and Amazon, so I'm covered if I get shipped an obvious and unacceptable load of crap that the OP was.
Neverthless, the degree of quality and precision I've come to expect from Spyderco would prohibit me from accepting this flaw, regardless of whether some see it as "normal", or see it as "The Grand Canyon as seen from an airliner...". LOL !!

The salient fact here, boys and girls, is that...... IT'S F***ED UP !!!!
And that S#!+ just don't fly coming from a premium,first-world manufacturer !!! End of story.
That's why I buy from Cutlery Shoppe and Amazon, so I'm covered if I get shipped an obvious and unacceptable load of crap that the OP was.
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U mad?MIL-DOT wrote:My humble Spydie harem consists of a mere 11 knives ( counting the UKPK that's in the mail.....WOO HOO !!!!!! :D ) so my frame of reference is admitedly limited.
Neverthless, the degree of quality and precision I've come to expect from Spyderco would prohibit me from accepting this flaw, regardless of whether some see it as "normal", or see it as "The Grand Canyon as seen from an airliner...". LOL !!
The salient fact here, boys and girls, is that...... IT'S F***ED UP !!!!
And that S#!+ just don't fly coming from a premium,first-world manufacturer !!! End of story.
That's why I buy from Cutlery Shoppe and Amazon, so I'm covered if I get shipped an obvious and unacceptable load of crap that the OP was.
Fact is most of the them are like that. Why? I don't know.
Maybe, someone with a postage label would send one in and we'll all find out.